 December 5, 2010 - 9:28pm | Thinking about the Rim did a little research: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalition_government But what would a coaltion government in the Rim look like? What sort of institutions would be associated with it? I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
 December 16, 2010 - 6:46pm | I would imagine their military efforts are more like the French Foreign Legion. Sponsored, but not an actual legitimate military. "The Flight" is fairly informal and suggests this sort of thing. Likely it's made up of mercenaries and those who can't find any other jobs. View my profile for a list of articles I have written, am writing, will write. "It's yo' mama!" —Wicket W. Warrick, Star Wars Ep. VI: Return of the Jedi "That guy's wise." —Logray, Star Wars Ep.VI: Return of the Jedi Do You Wanna Date My Avatar? - Felicia Day (The Guild) |
 December 16, 2010 - 6:39pm | Hey, The Rim's navy is called the Flight so what do we call the other branches of their military is their version of the marines more of a european naval infantry? we have reference to the Hopping 109th humma regiment but that only tells us that all humma regiments are being raised. Does this mean that each soverign planet raises troops and contributes? Do we call their ground pounders the army? The Storm? " 'Beware the Beast, Man, for he is the Devil's pawn. Alone among God's primates, he kills for sport, for lust, for greed. Yea, he will murder his brother to possess his brother's land. Let him not breed in great numbers, for he will make a desert of his home and yours. Shun him; drive him back into his jungle lair, for he is the harbinger of death." |
December 16, 2010 - 6:40pm | BTW, the Hoppin' 108th were UPF Landfleet. " 'Beware the Beast, Man, for he is the Devil's pawn. Alone among God's primates, he kills for sport, for lust, for greed. Yea, he will murder his brother to possess his brother's land. Let him not breed in great numbers, for he will make a desert of his home and yours. Shun him; drive him back into his jungle lair, for he is the harbinger of death." |
December 16, 2010 - 7:18pm | BTW, the Hoppin' 108th were UPF Landfleet. Ok I thought they were a transfer from the Rim. But that begs the question why would land fleet recruit an al humma formation? They'd have to do so by sending recruiting officers into another soverign nation and that just doesn't seem likely. After all there are way more heavy population worlds in the Frontier and lets face it yazerians dont have the discipline problems of humma and they have battle rage. I think a good explanation for an all humma regiment would be army formations raised by the planet in the Rim- it gives the Rim a mix of mixed race formations and a few single race formations. in a war like the SW2 with the mutual protection treaties they have in place between the UPF and the Rim it could stand to reason that the 108th was a transfer to landfleet kind of along the lines of UN troops coming from various nations to fight in Korea. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
December 17, 2010 - 10:43pm | The ZEB's timeline implies that the hoppers and the Ifshnit all volunteered for UPF service in droves to fight the Sathar...which begs the question why did they volunteer for UPF service, when the Flight and the CFM and the rest of the Rim were already fighting the Sathar alongside the UPF? I like your explanation better.... " 'Beware the Beast, Man, for he is the Devil's pawn. Alone among God's primates, he kills for sport, for lust, for greed. Yea, he will murder his brother to possess his brother's land. Let him not breed in great numbers, for he will make a desert of his home and yours. Shun him; drive him back into his jungle lair, for he is the harbinger of death." |
December 18, 2010 - 12:04pm | The 108th could be a loan from the Rim Coalition. But then, being a "coalition", they don't likely have much of a military to begin with, at least not a land-based one. View my profile for a list of articles I have written, am writing, will write. "It's yo' mama!" —Wicket W. Warrick, Star Wars Ep. VI: Return of the Jedi "That guy's wise." —Logray, Star Wars Ep.VI: Return of the Jedi Do You Wanna Date My Avatar? - Felicia Day (The Guild) |
December 18, 2010 - 1:26pm | Now a better question, just what is the composition of the Hoppin' Hundred and Eighth? Does one lineage provide all the troops, or do different houses/lineages staff the 108th's regiments? Do the division's CO and ADC come from different lineages or are both the division commander and the assistant division commander from the same house? Is it only Humma who comprise this division, or do we have non-Humma in the support units? " 'Beware the Beast, Man, for he is the Devil's pawn. Alone among God's primates, he kills for sport, for lust, for greed. Yea, he will murder his brother to possess his brother's land. Let him not breed in great numbers, for he will make a desert of his home and yours. Shun him; drive him back into his jungle lair, for he is the harbinger of death." |
 December 18, 2010 - 6:53pm | Unless you have served in a mutli-national military environment it is very difficult to explain just how truly hard it is to combine different national fighting forces together. A famous example is during the US invasion of Panama an Army unit had to call back to Fort Bragg to get some naval gunfire support. Why? Well the Army and Navy very infrequently trained together and no one had done naval fire support in a long time. Seems the Army and Navy having different procurement procedures and needs bought radios that did not work on the same frequencies and could not contact each other. This is from two branches of the same country's military. Now go with international operations. Try a Dining Facility serving food to Americans, Koreans, Austrailians, Japanese and Kuwaities. (Ali Al Salem Air Base in Kuwait, at least while I was there) There are some things which are everyday food to one culture are just revolting to others (Most Orientals find the smell of cheese to be rather disgusting). I think we have discussed the whole seating situation of Star Ships and races before. Still try and image the ship's captain has been replaced and the Human is out and the Dralasite is in. The Captain's Chair takes on a whole new meaning. Races which do not even share a genus fighting together are at a huge disadvantage logistically. Maybe that is why the Sather do not bring their Allies with them on campaign. It would make a bad supply situation impossible. Sounds like a great job but where did you say we had to go? |
December 20, 2010 - 2:20pm | Good points. in other words, the Hoppin' 108th are all Humma and being part of the UPF military are not out of communication with the UPF, but are out of communication with the Rim Coalition. View my profile for a list of articles I have written, am writing, will write. "It's yo' mama!" —Wicket W. Warrick, Star Wars Ep. VI: Return of the Jedi "That guy's wise." —Logray, Star Wars Ep.VI: Return of the Jedi Do You Wanna Date My Avatar? - Felicia Day (The Guild) |
 December 27, 2010 - 12:51am | I have been writing about The Rim and the Capellan Free Merchants on the SF Wiki, but its just stuff thrown-out from the Zeb book. It would be nice to have more info about their worlds, as the Zeb book has a lot to say, unfortunately it has a lot of useless or contradictory info. Seeing how the Rim is more of a frontier then the "The Frontier", and being fairly new, I would imagine The Rim Coalition would be a loose alliance or confederation of worlds with some sort of committee of representatives. |
 January 23, 2011 - 12:07pm | I have been writing about The Rim and the Capellan Free Merchants on the SF Wiki, but its just stuff thrown-out from the Zeb book. It would be nice to have more info about their worlds, as the Zeb book has a lot to say, unfortunately it has a lot of useless or contradictory info. Seeing how the Rim is more of a frontier then the "The Frontier", and being fairly new, I would imagine The Rim Coalition would be a loose alliance or confederation of worlds with some sort of committee of representatives. Malcondon, How are you splitting use contributed material and cannon material on the wiki? If someone submits their own Rim info, how is it linked to the original without everyone thinking it's cannon. |
January 24, 2011 - 7:00pm | ...and how do I conduct a search on the wiki?  At starfrontiers.info, that is. Why did you create a new wiki? Why not use the one that already exists? It's ad-free. View my profile for a list of articles I have written, am writing, will write. "It's yo' mama!" —Wicket W. Warrick, Star Wars Ep. VI: Return of the Jedi "That guy's wise." —Logray, Star Wars Ep.VI: Return of the Jedi Do You Wanna Date My Avatar? - Felicia Day (The Guild) |
January 25, 2011 - 8:21am | ...and how do I conduct a search on the wiki? At starfrontiers.info, that is. Why did you create a new wiki? Why not use the one that already exists? It's ad-free. Malcadon's wiki existed first.  I use sf.wikia for official SF material and sf.info for the Star Frontiersman. Ya, it's split...  OFF-TOPIC I've bounced this off ppl over the phone but never posted - I hesitate to say this because it could be conceived as controlling or self-promoting. This site was built for the community and was never intended to to promote a person but rather a game. I like the way you can share content within this site, categorize it and even use it to play online games. One feature that would be nice is a wiki - this allows yet more sharing of content(1) between projects and the general forums within the site without having to link externally or cut-n-paste. Perhaps this could be done with a single project using the Documents but we would need to add a few widgets for markup. There are wiki-like markup formats available for this site, just a matter of installing and testing. I'm not intending to step on toes (Malcadon/Tom) you both have done a great job. More than I could!  (1) Content in projects can be shared by using markup to embed the content in other areas of the site. |
 January 25, 2011 - 11:13am | This is way OT but: The search page on the starfrontiers.info wiki is here: http://starfrontiers.info/wiki/index.php/Special:Search I need to make it more visible and put a search box in the sidebar. And w00t is correct. The other one was there first, mine was second. It was always intended, I just never had the time to get it set up and the sf.wikia site got set up first. As to why I set up a second one, the reasons had to do with the things w00t mentioned as well. It was to be a resource for the on-line games on the starfrontiers.info site and provide a way for referee's to post material and link to it from the game and have it all there. (In the forums, there is a wiki tag that you can just enter the name of the wiki page and it will automatically generate a link.) Adding the Star Frontiersman content was an afterthought. Ad Astra Per Ardua! My blog - Expanding Frontier Webmaster - The Star Frontiers Network & this site Founding Editor - The Frontier Explorer Magazine Managing Editor - The Star Frontiersman Magazine |
