Remastered Dragon Articles

Anonymous's picture
Anonymous
December 14, 2009 - 8:45am
parriah submitted a very cool article he wrote based off the "Yacht and Privateers" article in Dragon #88. It inspired me to start a project I've had on the back burner -- remastering past articles that appeared in Ares, Dragon, Imagine and Polyhedron.

My initial thought was to submit them to the webzine. When their all complete I can provide a single PDF download of all articles.

What do you all think?

Yacht and Privateers is finished
Any help would be appreciated. :-)


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jedion357's picture
jedion357
December 14, 2009 - 11:18pm
Great Idea but I imagine that it would be quite big, just the dragon articles ammount to a subancial amout then throw in the Polyhedron (I have a few) plus ares and imagine, of which I haven't obtained any (ebay is such a fickle beast).

That would make a great PDF though. Call it: Woot's Guide to the SF Universe.

 I have a Dragon Article archive I downloaded from somewhere but it doesn't have any of the art work so a remaster document with all the old artwork plus some new would be very well recieved.
I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers!

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w00t (not verified)
December 15, 2009 - 7:19am
There are 42 articles including 5 Star Questions articles and 2 Sage Advice.
If we do one per Issue that will last us until #56. Foot in mouth

Heh!

I'll combine the Star Questions and articles that are like themed (Star Law, Tanks A Lot!).
Oh ya. It's all coming together.

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jedion357
December 15, 2009 - 8:28am
I see now sort of a regular feature.

Do you have a count on the Polyhedron, Ares and Imagine articles? More importantly do you have a master list of the issues with articles so that this dral can continue collecting the ultimate Star Frontiers collection?

Are there guidelines and rules on doing a remastered article? Just in case in the endless hours I have I get bored and decide to work on one of the polyhedron articles I have.
I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers!

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w00t (not verified)
December 15, 2009 - 9:05am
jedion357 wrote:
I see now sort of a regular feature.

Do you have a count on the Polyhedron, Ares and Imagine articles? More importantly do you have a master list of the issues with articles so that this dral can continue collecting the ultimate Star Frontiers collection?


I do. On my copy I numbered each page and made a TOC on the front. :-)

jedion357 wrote:
Are there guidelines and rules on doing a remastered article? Just in case in the endless hours I have I get bored and decide to work on one of the polyhedron articles I have.


I was going through each myself, adding notes, suggestions and (if time) playtest some of the ideas. We could start a project where interested parties are assigned an article, run with it and post back results for discussion. Some articles like, "Yachts and Privateers Return" I simply typed it up as is.

Thoughts?

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jedion357
December 15, 2009 - 10:39am
w00t wrote:
jedion357 wrote:
I see now sort of a regular feature.

Do you have a count on the Polyhedron, Ares and Imagine articles? More importantly do you have a master list of the issues with articles so that this dral can continue collecting the ultimate Star Frontiers collection?


I do. On my copy I numbered each page and made a TOC on the front. :-)

jedion357 wrote:
Are there guidelines and rules on doing a remastered article? Just in case in the endless hours I have I get bored and decide to work on one of the polyhedron articles I have.


I was going through each myself, adding notes, suggestions and (if time) playtest some of the ideas. We could start a project where interested parties are assigned an article, run with it and post back results for discussion. Some articles like, "Yachts and Privateers Return" I simply typed it up as is.

Thoughts?


My understanding was that we couldn't post straight copies of the original material but if it was "remastered" then it was ok. I was just wondering what the requirements for remastering were?

Also I think open rpg on a Friday night might be a good test bed for play testing. Some article you can't really play test but open RPG would be a good platform to discuss and pick apart an article (or even just the chat function this site if it was less of something you'd play test) and that could lead to new ideas and even page of new material suggesting alternate endings, strategies, or whatever based off the "playtesting". This will of course mean that a remaster Dragon article will not come as a surprise when the issue comes out but the conclusions section would.
I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers!

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w00t (not verified)
December 15, 2009 - 12:02pm
jedion357 wrote:
My understanding was that we couldn't post straight copies of the original material but if it was "remastered" then it was ok. I was just wondering what the requirements for remastering were?

Also I think open rpg on a Friday night might be a good test bed for play testing. Some article you can't really play test but open RPG would be a good platform to discuss and pick apart an article (or even just the chat function this site if it was less of something you'd play test) and that could lead to new ideas and even page of new material suggesting alternate endings, strategies, or whatever based off the "playtesting". This will of course mean that a remaster Dragon article will not come as a surprise when the issue comes out but the conclusions section would.


Remastering is the original material re-typed and formated. Since these are going in SFman the articles should be done in .doc or .rtf format, have no special formatting: using only simple tables and headings of levels 1, 2, or 3, and should be double-spaced.

Open RPG is a good idea. +1


jacobsar's picture
jacobsar
December 15, 2009 - 4:57pm
I have PDF files of all Dragon Mags from 1 to 250. This includes all graphics (including advertizments, if your realy interested) Would that help?
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Edwin Louis Cole

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w00t (not verified)
December 15, 2009 - 5:47pm
Yes, that would help (to compare to mine). Were only interested (at this time) in Star Frontiers, Knight Hawks articles, Star Questions and Sage Advice. I have an 8MB PDF that (I believe ) contains all the Sf articles published but I have nothing to come too.



jacobsar's picture
jacobsar
December 15, 2009 - 6:55pm
Ok,

Give me a day to search for all of the articles. I already have all of the Ares sections bookmarked, so that will cut down on some of the time. I have been a member of this forum for a while, but have been away from it since 2008. So this is realy my first time posting anything. Might be amaturish to begin with.
Reasonable men adapt to the world around them; unreasonable men make the world adapt to them. The world is changed by unreasonable men.
Edwin Louis Cole

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jacobsar
December 16, 2009 - 8:15pm
I have found Articles from as early as issue 65 and as late as 149. I am in the process of cutting and pasting the relevant articles/graphics. More to come. Since Gama World has been remastered do you think I should give those articles the same treatment?
Reasonable men adapt to the world around them; unreasonable men make the world adapt to them. The world is changed by unreasonable men.
Edwin Louis Cole

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w00t (not verified)
December 16, 2009 - 8:53pm
Ohhh that would be (Bill and Ted voice) Excellent!

:-)

jacobsar's picture
jacobsar
December 19, 2009 - 8:46am
A have started the process of Getting the articles into .Doc format. Since GammaWorld Predates SF the first files are primarily that. I am uploading them as Word files for now. Its a start. The word files include graphics that I believe are important to to the article. The largest stumbling block currently is the format of tables. The OCR used is having difficulty with the various different styles of tables in Dragon, especialy in the earlier issues where much of the typeface was actualy typed,like on a type writer.
Reasonable men adapt to the world around them; unreasonable men make the world adapt to them. The world is changed by unreasonable men.
Edwin Louis Cole

jacobsar's picture
jacobsar
December 19, 2009 - 4:57pm

Update: I have completed My search for GAMMAWorld Articles. They are now contained on 3 files totaling about 10,000Kb. It will probably need some scrubbing as the OCR software did some odd things to the fomating. I had to be creative with the cut/paste process. Where should I post it?

Reasonable men adapt to the world around them; unreasonable men make the world adapt to them. The world is changed by unreasonable men.
Edwin Louis Cole

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Rum Rogue
December 19, 2009 - 9:16pm
jacobsar wrote:

Update: I have completed My search for GAMMAWorld Articles. They are now contained on 3 files totaling about 10,000Kb. It will probably need some scrubbing as the OCR software did some odd things to the fomating. I had to be creative with the cut/paste process. Where should I post it?

Wow. that was fast. 
Cant wait to see it.
No clue where to post it at though. I dont know if the Project section can hold it. 
Time flies when your having rum.

Im a government employee, I dont goof-off. I constructively abuse my time.

jedion357's picture
jedion357
December 19, 2009 - 11:06pm
Rum Rogue wrote:
No clue where to post it at though. I dont know if the Project section can hold it. 


for want of somewhere better you could put it in the Port Loren Public Library Project
I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers!

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w00t (not verified)
December 20, 2009 - 1:00pm
10MB - you'll have to mail it to me. Or break it down into smaller chunks.

The files and discussion should go in the Digitally Remastered project.
I like Jedi's idea about adding comentary and content to the articles. Once the articles are posted in the project we can pick one to discuss - then submit it to the webzine. (I'll come up with a special format so it's clear was is the original text and what has been added. )

Sound good?

@Jedi, you can hot-link the content from one project to another. User the following code (remove the spaces) < <node,xxxx> > where xxxx is the node number. For example the node number for this topic is 3837.

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jacobsar
December 23, 2009 - 9:58pm

Sounds good W00t.
I just finished the Star Frontiers files, they are in two files totaling 8900 Kb. that brings the total memory to 19000 Kb. The SF files stop in issue 149 but I have found an attempt to use the SF setting using the Alternity rules in the third Dragon Annual. I will add that ASAP(after I get back from my vacation in Florida.) I will join the DR project now.
Have a very Merry Christmass.

Reasonable men adapt to the world around them; unreasonable men make the world adapt to them. The world is changed by unreasonable men.
Edwin Louis Cole

jacobsar's picture
jacobsar
December 29, 2009 - 8:06pm
OK guys,
Your Christmas present from me is under the tree at the Port Loren Public Library. I thought since the data is still raw (and The files still very large) it belonged in there. We could bring the data over to Digitaly remastered project acrticle by article.
My submitions are as follows: Alternate Frontiers, SF Archive 1-100, and SF Archive 100-150. The smallest file is Alternate Frontiers, so this whould probably make the best starting point. It is the newest of the articles and has convertions from the SF to Alternity game systems. It even reveals the names of the homeworlds of some of the core four (Gasp!) Jedi, you might like to use this article to flesh out the "book of lost homeworlds" idea.
Reasonable men adapt to the world around them; unreasonable men make the world adapt to them. The world is changed by unreasonable men.
Edwin Louis Cole

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w00t (not verified)
December 30, 2009 - 11:49am

Excellent!

Can't wait to check it out (when I'm not on the Port Loren Library computers).

Hehe (serious, I'm at the library).


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w00t (not verified)
January 1, 2010 - 7:19pm
@jacobsar

Your contact info is turned off in your profile, I'm unable to respond to the message.


jacobsar's picture
jacobsar
January 1, 2010 - 9:09pm
Sorry W00t. I think it is right now.
Anyway, has anyone had time to look at the files?
Reasonable men adapt to the world around them; unreasonable men make the world adapt to them. The world is changed by unreasonable men.
Edwin Louis Cole

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w00t (not verified)
January 4, 2010 - 9:09am
The following link/post in the Remastered project is for helping remaster jacobsar's uploads;

Located in the Digitally Remastered project.

Ascent's picture
Ascent
January 13, 2010 - 2:54pm
I found some old Star Frontiers images and an ad in old issues of Dragon that would be good to provide in it.
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Ascent's picture
Ascent
January 13, 2010 - 2:58pm
w00t wrote:
There are 42 articles including 5 Star Questions articles and 2 Sage Advice.
If we do one per Issue that will last us until #56. Foot in mouth

Heh!

I'll combine the Star Questions and articles that are like themed (Star Law, Tanks A Lot!).
Oh ya. It's all coming together.

I'm sorry if you have put much work into this, but I have been working on a Star Questions combined document with updates for nearly 6 months. I'm trying to perfect it. It won't be much longer now.
View my profile for a list of articles I have written, am writing, will write.
"It's yo' mama!" —Wicket W. Warrick, Star Wars Ep. VI: Return of the Jedi
"That guy's wise." —Logray, Star Wars Ep.VI: Return of the Jedi
Do You Wanna Date My Avatar? - Felicia Day (The Guild)

Ascent's picture
Ascent
January 13, 2010 - 2:59pm
Ascent wrote:
w00t wrote:
There are 42 articles including 5 Star Questions articles and 2 Sage Advice.
If we do one per Issue that will last us until #56. Foot in mouth

Heh!

I'll combine the Star Questions and articles that are like themed (Star Law, Tanks A Lot!).
Oh ya. It's all coming together.

I'm sorry if you have put much work into this, but I have been working on a Star Questions/Sage Advice/Dispel Confusion combined document with updates for nearly 6 months. I'm trying to perfect it. It won't be much longer now.
View my profile for a list of articles I have written, am writing, will write.
"It's yo' mama!" —Wicket W. Warrick, Star Wars Ep. VI: Return of the Jedi
"That guy's wise." —Logray, Star Wars Ep.VI: Return of the Jedi
Do You Wanna Date My Avatar? - Felicia Day (The Guild)

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w00t (not verified)
January 13, 2010 - 5:52pm
Thanks Ascent, looking forward to it!

:-)

Anonymous's picture
w00t (not verified)
February 9, 2010 - 10:54am
Cross post from

I'm finished with Yachts and Privateers Return.
Please review and let me know if there are any suggestions to add to the article.

Download here

Anyone want to work up some chits like these?
And/Or work up a Knight Hawks scenario?