 June 17, 2016 - 7:25am | I just finished reorganizing and in places rewriting parts of the Volturnus article at the other wiki. I also footnoted and referenced it and added appropriate images. Tell me what you think. http://starfrontiers.wikia.com/wiki/Volturnus |
 June 18, 2016 - 1:47am | Couple of things stood out: 1. Cybodragons are not a native species but a sathar introduction. Not even sure they could be encountered with out sathar present due to nature of how their cybernetics work ( the whole changing of the battery thing). Was that a pic of Vasquez rocks used for the mountains of Volturnus? If so nice touch due to its Star Trek pedigree. 2. The statement "The history of Volturnus begins" is technically in error. Logically it begins much earlier then the point discussed. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
June 18, 2016 - 1:43pm | Actually, cybodragons are created from native Voluturnian lizards. Yeah, that's "Kirk's Rock". I thought it fit, given how many other s-f shows have filmed in and around there. The line isn't "the history of Voltunus begins..." it's "The story of the fall of Volturnus begins..." it picks up the historical record at a point where it is relevant to the needs of the game. Not that I wrote that line anyways, that is how the Planetary Brief put it. |
June 18, 2016 - 3:24pm | Ahh I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
 June 18, 2016 - 7:52pm | Cybodragons are not a native species but a sathar introduction. Not even sure they could be encountered with out sathar present due to nature of how their cybernetics work ( the whole changing of the battery thing). The creature description in SF2 does list Volturnus as the native world, although obviously they aren't born and bred as such...it would have been nice for the writers to spec an unmolested/biological version as well as the Sather reconstructed monstrosity, but that is easily house-ruled by "dumbing down" the stats of the enhanced beast. |
June 19, 2016 - 12:38am | Call them Volturnian dragons since the cybodragon is unnatural. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
June 19, 2016 - 3:20am | Why should I change the name given to them by the game itself? |
June 19, 2016 - 8:17am | Jed is speaking of the unmolested/biological originals that are native (re: my prior post), the ones the worms convert into cybodragons. |
June 19, 2016 - 8:40am | Right, I get it now. I didn't see your post initially. My bad. wouldn't be too hard. |
June 19, 2016 - 9:49am | http://starfrontiers.wikia.com/wiki/Cybodragon now with stats for base critter |
June 19, 2016 - 3:18pm | Can you have a creature played with by the worms native to an ecosystem? I would say no. The original Volturnus dragon yes cybodragon no. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
June 19, 2016 - 4:30pm | Take it up with the game developers. |
June 19, 2016 - 10:52pm | So it really begs for some backstory...the Sathar were on Volturnus once before and for whatever reason they nabbed some of the native life forms for cybernetic experimentation & conversion, just in case they might need to return. And of course to loan to their allied Zuraqqor when they raid the starship Omicron. I postulate one of the worms went by the name "Doctor Evil" who went on a tirade involving "one simple request, and that is to have giant lizards with frickin' laser beams attached to their frickin' heads! Would you remind me what I pay you people for, honestly? I'm the boss, the big cheese, the A-number-one. Throw me a bone here, I need to know these things!" |
June 20, 2016 - 5:39am | Backstory already provided in the Planetary Brief. :) |
June 20, 2016 - 7:52am | Fair enough, I didn't see it...we both know what a fan I am of tht site. ;) |
June 20, 2016 - 10:10am | You don't have the module itself? It came with every box set! Shame on you! *j/k* |
 June 20, 2016 - 2:42pm | Minor question. So the Sathar drop by wipe out the Eorna and then leave for a few decades. When they come back they have Cyberdragons, natives of Volturnus with them. Why? The Sathar must have taken the original creatures with them during the first invasion (or they are the fastest cybernetic implanters in the universe) but why would they. They couldn't find anything better in all that time? They are really into bringing original creatures home again? They really like that design? Frankly it seems that the Cyberdragon actually being from Volturnus is a huge coincidence. Sounds like a great job but where did you say we had to go? |
June 20, 2016 - 3:26pm | More like hundreds of years (at least). Long enough for the Eorna survivors to have declined by 2/3 and for them to have become catastrophically inbred. As for you other question, why not if that's the tool they felt was right for that job? |
June 20, 2016 - 7:06pm | Perhaps Cybodragons are like Death Stars, an effective killing machine that leaves room for improvements with each consecutive re-design. |
June 20, 2016 - 7:36pm | I believe 900 years since the Sathar nearly wiped out the eorna. I'd have to chase down the reference. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
June 21, 2016 - 4:01am | Well, according to Zeb, the evolution of the Mechannons (which would have happened after the Day of Death) begins in 800 PF. That was the only specific time reference I could find. |
June 21, 2016 - 4:40am | Perhaps Cybodragons are like Death Stars, an effective killing machine that leaves room for improvements with each consecutive re-design.
Ah there have been three Death Stars, (Okay one was a planet but you get it) Only two ever fired and all three were destroyed with all hands lost very quickly. Those things are the Sgt York of the Star Wars Universe Sounds like a great job but where did you say we had to go? |
June 21, 2016 - 6:37am | Only two ever fired? You watched different movies. |
June 21, 2016 - 6:41am | All three Death Stars were fired. One fired once per encounter, the second fired multiple times at more precise targets while requiring very little recharging time between shots, and the third was able to fire at multiple targets with one shot. All three were quite effective at killing. Consequently, all three were able to be destroyed courtesy of inside information. Those lacking said information would never have dared to go up against them. |
 June 21, 2016 - 7:39am | Mixing Death Stars with Star Frontiers? Neat... but back to the the primary topic, which is kind of a spill over from the discussion I started about doing something with Lizard Head Rock which is mentioned in the last Volturnus module. There are a lot of hints in the modules that the Eorna and Sathar histories were linked for a considerable amount of time. Since much was said there, I won't repeat too much of it here other than to say the story about how peaceful the Eorna were and that the Sathar just attacked them soon after they achieved interstellar travel just seems to be a cover story for some other sinister dealings that the two races had. That's not to say the Eorna aren't the victims of an unforgivable genocide. The Eorna survivors may have been the peaceful ones of their race... but beings that grew up on a planet with so many hostile lifeforms that created combat and warbots (which the Mechanons had) and break out their laser rifles with their own cybernetically enhanced Megasauruses for the battle with the Sathar, don't seem to be space-age hippies to me.  Joe Cabadas |
June 21, 2016 - 11:46am | Well you folks also have me reading the Volturnus Revisited project. Lots of good musings over there too. Joe Cabadas |
June 21, 2016 - 6:35pm | What if the Volturnian dragon is now extinct on Volturnus? And some crazy eorna scientist wants to repopulate the species by getting s hold of cybodragons? Lots of red tape and Star Law involvement, no doubt. One tactic would be letting their power supply run out and then subdue them. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
June 21, 2016 - 9:26pm | That would be relatively simple. Get a cybodragon and get gene samples from it's organic components. Either clone the critter or culture the DNA for IVF of a similar species. You have a point about the bureaucracy though. |
June 22, 2016 - 5:53am | Quick recap since the Death Stars were supposed to be planet killers I did not count the self defense firing as the Second Death Star using its full potential. IF you want to count a few capital ships as legitimate targets you can but not seeing it here. Sounds like a great job but where did you say we had to go? |
June 22, 2016 - 7:42am | It was the same weapon. If you had an AR, would it be correct usage to say you hadn't fired it until you went full auto? |
