 January 22, 2014 - 9:08am | Working on the Athor militia and I need a rank structure. My intent is to use the native american practice of having chiefs and war chiefs such that everyone in a crew of a ship is a warrior but the captian is the chief of the ship and his first officer is war chief or something similar. Alternately it could be Chief of the Ship, 2md chief, 3rd chief. Everyone else is a warrior which is a generic term applied to everyone in the militia regardless of rank but it is also the entry level rank. However, it seems that there should be some grades within the warriors. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
 January 22, 2014 - 1:47pm | Are you going with the European system where everyone gets a title or the more traditional "I'm in charge and the rest of you know what to do so do it system"? Sounds like a great job but where did you say we had to go? |
January 22, 2014 - 5:27pm | I think we need some rank structure. looking for ideas I suppose you second option could work with a war band chief and his warriors, we are talking small ship crews and squadron's of fighters so the squadron leader is chief of the wing or wing chief and everyone else is a warrior Perhaps the yazirians of Athor care nothing for any sort of title other than "I am a warrior son of Athor." I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
 January 22, 2014 - 8:07pm | It could be a system with no solid rank structure. The fleet could be made of (typically Privateer or Yacht) ships with crew who enlist as a whole for the defense of the planet. Rank, crew, assignment and promotions are at the whim of the ship's commander, but pay and benefits would be subsidized by the government. On the other hand, the government might require captains to use a uniformed rank system to help with pay and benefits. They may not even have that level of uniformity. This setup could allow ship-owning players to get into the action, as well as to have an organization that is so loose, it could be rifted with greed, abuse and incompetents — not good in itself, but it has a lot of opportunity for role-playing. The organization maybe so lacked in discipline and focus, ships may not even get along at times. As for ranks, I have some ideas: "Commander" sounds as good as "Chief", but I would note both to see how they sound. The War Chief (or War Commander) could be a Chief (Commander) that is voted by other Chiefs to head all ships in a time of crises or conflict. War Chief/War Commander — Supreme commander of the fleet. (flag officer equivalent). Chief/Commander — The commander of a ship (major officer equivalent). Sub-Chief/Sub-Commander — Runs apart of a ship. (lesser officer or major NCO equivalent) Supervisor — Commands a small team. (lesser NCO equivalent) Crewmen — Basic personnel. (enlisted) |
January 22, 2014 - 8:43pm | Khah'dan of Athor (Literally: Sword of Athor) equates to Fleet Commander of Athor militia- holds overal command of the system military forces including auxillaries raised from the citizenry Khah'dan of Yast: military commander of all forces based on Yast (second in command to the above) Khah'dan of Exib: military commander of all forces based on Exib (3rd in command ) Wing Commander: equates to captian somewhat started as the commander of squadrons of fighters and boarding shuttles and was used for the first regular ships they got, sometimes shortened to "wing' I like Sub/commander and Hunt Leader for a supervisor level of rank Warriors for everyone else as to gradations of rank perhaps they can simply have a service pin that denotes 2 years of service such that a warrior with the 2 year pin is treated as a corporal/sgt I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
 January 23, 2014 - 10:25am | I'm probably going to use Yast in a one shot comeing up. Where did you draw the inspiration for this? I might be using your work in progress soon lol ----------------------------------------------- |
January 23, 2014 - 12:46pm | I'm probably going to use Yast in a one shot comeing up. Where did you draw the inspiration for this? I might be using your work in progress soon lol A very Yazirian Civil War Project http://www.starfrontiers.us/node/6023 Plus the Hitch Hikers Guide project; the entries on Athor, Yast and Exib werre actually started because of recovered material from a lost internet fan site. The material was good stuff so I've pretty much appropriated it like it was my own. http://www.starfrontiers.us/node/5570 I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
January 23, 2014 - 1:10pm | rank decorations: silver denotes more seniority, gold is junior Khah'dan of Athor (Literally: Sword of Athor) equates to Fleet Commander of Athor militia- holds overal command of the system military forces including auxillaries raised from the citizenry: crossed khah'dan swords (silver) with gold zamra on top Khah'dan of Yast: crossed khah'dan swords (silver) Khah'dan of Exib: crossed Khah'dan swords (gold) Wing Commander: 1 khah'dan sword- (silver & gold for Sr. & Jr grades ) Sub/commander: two small zamra (silver & gold for Sr. & Jr grades ) and Hunt Leader for a supervisor level of rank: 1 small zamra (silver & gold for Sr. & Jr grades ) Leader of warriors: 1/2 a zamra (silver & gold for Sr. & Jr grades ) Warriors: no decoration When a rank is Senior the word senior is attached: Senior Wing commander or Senior Hunt Leader. Junior is never attached in regular usage thus the junior grade of a rank is simply Wing Commander or Hunt Leader. However, if Junior is ever attached its during a dressing down and is intended to carry a strong tone of displeasure over actions and it becomes a verbal reprimand without there being an official reprimand. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
January 23, 2014 - 3:09pm | Cool... I know there is an Article on the Fo1 in SFMan I've got to reread I think. You might have written it based on these works. ----------------------------------------------- |
 January 23, 2014 - 3:09pm | Are you using the clans from SFMan #8? You might tie some ranks to one clan or another. Or possibly there might parallel structures for the less violent clans. |
January 23, 2014 - 7:56pm | Cool... I know there is an Article on the Fo1 in SFMan I've got to reread I think. You might have written it based on these works. Frontier Explorer #2 http://www.frontierexplorer.org/book/family-one and that would be a yes but without a doubt I took ideas from others in the forums. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
 January 23, 2014 - 10:42pm | Seems like there should be scout and tracker as well. -iggy |
January 24, 2014 - 1:15pm | Seems like there should be scout and tracker as well. Oh, I like those too, just couldnt come up with them on my own. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
January 25, 2014 - 3:45am | I like whats evolving here, ranks that correspond to enlished and ranks that correspond to officers but not the hard and fast system of enlisted on the right and officers on the left. the officer system grew out of the clan leadership system, where anyone that has performed with honor can be advanced to clan chief and elder. Thus is natural in the yazirian mindset that one might progress through many of the ranks without it being officer and enlisted carreer tracks. The idea of fragging an officer would be alien to Athor militia and they would react strongly to tales of it from other sources like say a human military organization. An officer that caps out at Wing Commander without real opportunity to advance due to the lack of places to advance too in such a small militia would propbably take the slowing down of his carreer philosophically: "I am a warrior son of Yast, its my joy to serve my colony." More ambitious yazirians might seek to enter Space Fleet or corporate service. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
