 March 14, 2012 - 2:42pm | So, I'm cooped up in a hotel that's more of a flat. I was thinking frontier hotels would have religious books depending on location. Yazirian worlds might have old baillorism scripts, dral hotels may stuff fluidic bibles in drawers, humans would have their main book sitting on the desk/couch and vrusk would have Ki'tvKIK Guide to Beauty of the Ancients. ..just some rendom thoughts. |
 March 14, 2012 - 4:59pm | actually if you really wanted to get metaphysically esoteric here. Each hotel regardless of race would have a dusty hard bound edition of the Alpha dawn rule book. After all it is rules for the life, the universe, and everything in the frontier...eh, think about it :) |
 March 14, 2012 - 5:02pm | Ki'tvKIK Guide to Beauty of the Ancients- cross between Sun Tzu and Meditations of the Prophet @ AZ_Gamer: 2 thumbs up I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
March 14, 2012 - 5:56pm | Ha Scott! I was actually going to send this pic before I had to run out. Look what's in my hotel dresser drawer!  |
 March 14, 2012 - 6:28pm | actually if you really wanted to get metaphysically esoteric here. Each hotel regardless of race would have a dusty hard bound edition of the Alpha dawn rule book. After all it is rules for the life, the universe, and everything in the frontier...eh, think about it :) LOL! So that would mean: Alpha Dawn + Knight Hawks = Old Testament Zebulon's Guide = New Testament ARES magazine articles = Biblical Apocrypha Alpha Dawn + Knight Hawks + Zebulon's Guide = King James Version Digitally Remastered = Good News (modern English) Bible The Star Frontiersmen = The Watchtower. |
March 14, 2012 - 6:57pm | The Star Frontiersmen = The Watchtower.
Should I laugh  or cry  Hehe. Let's here it for all your w00t Witnesses! |
 March 14, 2012 - 9:12pm | And the lost TSR developer notes = the dead sea scrolls? -iggy |
March 15, 2012 - 3:32am | Not sure I'd classify Zebs as the new testament or SFman as the Watchtower- At least with the SFman people like to get it! design notes of TSR staff as Dead Sea scrolls- that's rich! I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
 March 15, 2012 - 6:00am | Well how about AD as old testament, KH as New Testament and (here we go) Zeb's as the Book of Mormon. Since it is a believe it only if you want kinda book. Sounds like a great job but where did you say we had to go? |
March 15, 2012 - 7:01am | We're showing a strong representation of North American Christian background in this thread but I think the analogy to Christian scriptures and Christian like scriptures breaks down when it comes to the meanings and values attached to the various documents site. A better analogy might be to Hebrew scriptures: AD & KHs equals the Torah or the Law, Dragon, Ares, and Polyhedron articles as well as Zebs equals the prophets (think about it), the Star Frontiersman represents the Talmudic writings and authors. "Rabbi Shadow Shack wrote....." after all most if not all Christians reject completely the Watch Tower and book of Mormon; whereas even most of the Zebs haters will at least use the equipment and corporations sections.I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
 March 15, 2012 - 7:22am | We don't all reject the Book of Mormon  .Ad Astra Per Ardua! My blog - Expanding Frontier Webmaster - The Star Frontiers Network & this site Founding Editor - The Frontier Explorer Magazine Managing Editor - The Star Frontiersman Magazine |
March 15, 2012 - 8:10am | Well how about AD as old testament, KH as New Testament and (here we go) Zeb's as the Book of Mormon. I thought about this but couldn't make it fit. Zeb's does not act as a second witness of anything, it contradicts, confuses, and changes most everything that was core in the AD and KH game. The only things it doesn't contradict are the new things it introduces. I remember I was very excited when I got my copy of Zeb's, hoping it would explain all the missing bits and fix the weaknesses in AD and KH, that it would grow the system. Other than a little background material and equipment it didn't help make the game better. Sorry Zeb's I don't like to bash. Your front cover was cool. -iggy |
March 15, 2012 - 8:40am | Well we could switch to Catholic and make the books and modules, which introduced new rules, equipment, races and background as the Bible, Hymnals, Prayer Books and Missals. Anyone want to go Eastern and have the Tao or Confucius sayings or the Buddha or Hindu. Frontierwise I think only the Family of One is big enough to place literature in Hotel rooms. Oh by the way I am Wiccan so it's all Book of Shadows to me. Sounds like a great job but where did you say we had to go? |
March 15, 2012 - 8:51am | We don't all reject the Book of Mormon
Unless you're a Universalist mouthing platitudes about every belief being valid when in reality they generally do reject traditional Christian belief most main stream Christian groups have on the weight of the verse from Galatians I think that says, "If we or an angel preach another gospel...." typically look askance at the Book of Mormon since its been billed as an Alternate Gospel either by its own title page or M. missionaries themselves. You'd either have to be LDS or one of the breakaway but smaller groups to accept the Book of Mormon as authoritave. Mormonism is certainly mainstream these days but that hasn't changed the perception of many Christian groups of it simply that reached a certain level of mainstream acceptance. Being aware of the vast differences between LDS, Watch Tower and a host of other groups I thought the analogy was poor. Rejection of the book of Mormon is more or less on par with Jews rejecting the New Testament- statement of fact that this group or that group does not value the document for whatever reason. .I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
 March 22, 2012 - 9:47pm | Not sure I'd classify Zebs as the new testament
Zebulon's Guide would be Pagan Ramblings... |
March 23, 2012 - 5:24am | Dear Shadow As I mentioned I am Pagan and we dont ramble. Sounds like a great job but where did you say we had to go? |
 March 23, 2012 - 6:40am | Perhaps we could all agree that Zebs would fit in thusly: As material created by 100 insane chimps randomly pounding away at a dusty typewritter and who accidentally 'typed' a couple of the pages which make sense (specifically, equipment!). The rest of which is meaningless gibberish (especially that gawdawful timeline!)? I don't have to outrun that nasty beast my friend...I just have to outrun you!  |
March 23, 2012 - 12:05pm | "Pagan Ramblings" in the sense that it isn't observed by any religion (since everything is being referenced from biblical standpoints)...maybe I should have said "Freemasons' Guide" or "Aethiests' Guide" etc. |
March 23, 2012 - 12:44pm | I wonder if the Frontier has religions that require certain levels of commitment to conform to a policy. For instance, if you were required to knock-on-doors or make a pilgrimage to don funny underwear would it be acceptable to locate these places locally or would you have to travel to the "home system". Why don't we see more religious people represented in our games? I imagine spaceports and busy with pilgrims, solicitors, etc. Might be a good write-up for webzine. What organizations take on the task of translating?
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March 23, 2012 - 5:18pm | Shadow I love you man but the more you write the deeper your foot goes in your mouth. Pagan is a religious term which covers all those who follow many of the other than mainstream religions such as Wicca, Druidism, Asatru and others. It is used in the way Christian covers everyone who follows Christ (Protestant, Catholic, Mormon etc) Muslim covers everyone who follows the Prophet (Sunni, Shia, Sufism, Kharijite) and so on with the terms Judaism, Buddhism, Hindu and any generic term which covers many different branches and sects under it. Thinking the Family of One should have some branches and sects and maybe a cult or two added on to them. Would make a great scenario. After all the Branch Davidians are Christians (Remember Waco) Sounds like a great job but where did you say we had to go? |
