30 years latter how did KHs do?

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jedion357
January 4, 2012 - 10:36am
So here we are 30 years latter, how close to "reality" did KHs come with its tech? Are electron screens and beams probable tech 100 years from now? Stasis screen? Masking screen? Disruptor cannon? What tech is probable that didn't make it into KHs?
I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers!
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jedion357
January 4, 2012 - 10:46am
Masking screen seems imminently plausible. I think we could make this today though I'm sure there are some engineering challenges that would need to be overcome. Not sure what the principles are behind the proton and electron screen. I think expendable EW drones probably will play a greater role in the future than actually did in game. Lasers are of course plausible. Not sure if the game designer's concept of atomic drives really match what's possible.
I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers!

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rattraveller
January 4, 2012 - 11:04am
Thinking of the portable mircowave guns used for crowd control can easily be upgraded to Electron and Proton Batteries. Of course once you have a weapon the defense for it comes up in the never ending weapons race. Think they nailed those two.
Sounds like a great job but where did you say we had to go?

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AZ_GAMER
January 5, 2012 - 12:00am

Ion drives (called electric plasma drives) are being used for satalite thrusters. Making larger versions are only a matter of time and economics. Rail gun technology is pretty solid and coming down in size. Laser cannons are in their infancy as ground based anti-missle systems but could be a plausible reality if researched. Torpedo are simply fancied up ICBM's but the fision drive on assault rockets hasn't even been approached yet. Seeker missiles - well the game isnt even exactly sure on how they work efficiently so its a wash in the real world. Particle beam weapons - a lot of theoretical work can be found on the subject on google but nothing substantial that approaches a weapons grade system. I humbly disagree on the microwave technology, I don't think were anywhere in the neighborhood of a ship based weapon. Using a oversized radar range on squishy little humans to make them sick and not want to fight anymore is one thing putting a hole in a space hull is quite another. I agree the theor has promise for mazer weapons but we aren't even in the same sport let alone ball park with that one. EMP is another weapon that holds a lot of promise that has not yet seen the light of day - of course if it did I may not be able to post my thoughts on the internet. I think we could mount some effective kinetic kill weapons like using chemical or electro-magentic propulsion. The atomic rockets site pretty much debunked the effectiveness of reflective hulls stating that it may make ships resistent but when you deal with that much energy a reflective surface wont stop a high power laser. Reactive armor is more realistic, except against lasers, it has been used since the 80's on tanks. RA expoldes outward when impacted producing an oposing force against the incoming projectile. I agree on masking screens - its just frozen water vapor, but getting it to deploy before it freezes in space would be a chore. I don't think we will see a working atomic rocket in our lifetimes unless their is a serious change in policy and attitude. FTL- well some people in the world think we already salvaged a gravity drive from a captured/recovered alien spacecraft i.e. bob lazard. Others consider FTL completely the delusion of science fiction movies. Either way we'll probably never know for sure in our lifetime.


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AZ_GAMER
January 5, 2012 - 12:03am
One idea that I was reading about is using the ships drive ehaust as a weapon. Someone should write up some damage rules for going full throttle on a close-by enemy ship.

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jedion357
January 5, 2012 - 9:00pm
Actually rail guns as opposed to gauss guns probably are a no go due to the fact that the round is in contact with the rail. This leads to serious wear and tear issues with the rail gun which are avoided with gauss technology. Its a small point and I often use the term "rail gun" without thinking. People are playing with building their own guass guns but as yet we dont have one that has transitioned to commercial gun use. However, with enough people tinkering with it sooner or latter it will hit the market that will function well enough to compete with std. firearms.
I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers!

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iggy
January 5, 2012 - 9:00pm
I do not think that water would freeze instantly in space so the masking screen should have time to disperse enough before the droplets freeze.  The trick with space is there is nothing there for the heat to transfer to so it takes longer to radiate away than you would expect.  This is a thermal transfer problem and the vacuum of space has nothing to conduct the heat.  So, the vibrating water molecules can't pass that energy to any other molecules and are left with only IR as a loss path for the energy.

The vacuum of space would also aid the water in breaking into very small droplets before the water froze.  I've seen this with moisture inside a dewar I was evacuating, it ends up everywhere, on all of the surfaces.  Then you have to reopen the dewar, clean it, dry it, and start all over.  It would take a day for us to pump a dewar to a vacuum inside.  So, it if was not dry first you found out you wasted a day.
-iggy

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AZ_GAMER
January 5, 2012 - 11:49pm
This is a rail run test, as you can see on the video, the weapon (though experimental) is more than adequettly effective whether it runs on rails or gauss coil technology.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_OjZyQ6LGE