 December 31, 2011 - 11:54am | CEO of Streel and a yazirian, that is the sum total of canon material on him that I'm aware of. But what is his story? At the time of the publication of Zebulon's Guide to the Frontier he still resided at Point True, Pale and had not moved his corporate headquarters to New Streel. So who is Hilo Headow? Question: does anyone else think Headow sounds like a human name? I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
December 31, 2011 - 12:11pm | Idea I'm working on is he was born in 88PF, RE:SFman 16 timeline, the year the first wave of the star exodus arrived on Hentz. He grew up on Hentz but at adulthood he left, the reason why is unclear but its rumored that he left under a cloud. He bounced around the Frontier taking jobs in Prengular, and Cassidine for a few years till the out break of SW1 when he was approximately 21 years of age. Enlisting in Ground Fleet he rose to the rank of _?_. He saw action in the liberation of Pale where he settled after the war to go into business. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
December 31, 2011 - 12:49pm | Did Hilo ever declare life enemy? If he did during SW1 then its little doubt its the sathar. If that's the case then we can assume that he's fought and killed his life enemy very early in his life. How does he feel about that? Despite the fact that the sathar could be his life enemy it has not stopped him from going into finance and building a massively successful business. I don't think PGC is his life enemy despite Laco's war going on for so long, it just doesn't feel that way too me. Though when he was bouncing around the Frontier before the war he could have had a chance encounter with Chang Kim Lee, the CEO of PGC. Perhaps some small slight by Lee fueled some of the friction between the two Mega corps later on. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
December 31, 2011 - 1:21pm | What's Hilo's connection to Pale? Its a long way from yazirian space. I rather like the idea of him being a war veteran settling on the world he fought for. Combine that with there being some sort of possible ostracizism in his past and it seems reasonable that he might settle and live out his life on Pale. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
December 31, 2011 - 2:05pm | Hilo and Ebser Henshaw? Do they have more of a connection then just corporate allies? Did they serve together in the war and since that time Henshaw started MerCo. He's a fellow yazirian so perhaps there is something to the relationship between these two CEOs besides just business. It just seems a little odd Ebser is a yazirian CEO of a Mega corp based on Kdikit only a couple of generations after the Free World Rebellion. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
December 31, 2011 - 2:36pm | I think the interesting portions of Hilo's life are the early 1/3rd and the last decades. Decades of business dealings building a major Mega corp doesn't give you much in the way of a story to tell. However, an aged Hilo still clutching the reins of power at Streel while his long time competitor, Chang Kim Lee is long since past away and some younger Vice Presidents think its time he step aside does give you a story to work with. His early decades growing up on Hentz and fighting in the war then founding Streel during the rebuilding of Pale and riding the wave of new investment to success is an interesting story. Note Hilo will have lived to see the founding of the UPF and the year 111 celebration. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
December 31, 2011 - 4:23pm | Again, I pose the question do not Headow and Henshaw sound like English names or something? I'm not saying they should be changed, I just find the names odd. Perhaps there is a story there. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
 December 31, 2011 - 6:34pm | Ole Tom lied to me.....  |
 December 31, 2011 - 9:12pm | I'd think that rather difficult, seeing as your mother is a circuit board. :P View my profile for a list of articles I have written, am writing, will write. "It's yo' mama!" —Wicket W. Warrick, Star Wars Ep. VI: Return of the Jedi "That guy's wise." —Logray, Star Wars Ep.VI: Return of the Jedi Do You Wanna Date My Avatar? - Felicia Day (The Guild) |
January 1, 2012 - 7:02am | I'd think that rather difficult, seeing as your mother is a circuit board. :P Well, he was known to frequent Star Play robotic brothels. Yet another instance of mechanization putting people out of a job, Sex industry workers are uniting to oppose this; ISSSI in the latest cadre to crop up on the Frontier with strong ties to the Silver Death Cult. ISSSI: Inter Stellar Society of Sex Industry workers; works for legistlation banning the use of sex bots in Star Play brothels. Porn Stars are some of the most vocal and visible members of the cadre even though their jobs are the most secure as it seems porn viewers prefer to watch live action holo vids over anthropomorphic robots. Star Play attempted to produce a line of movies disguising robots with holoscreens but the movies bombed due to the acting being even more stiff and flat than what is normal for porn. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
January 1, 2012 - 8:25am | "Hey, Jim, will you look at this?" "What is it?" "Holo film from 2PF of Chang Kim Lee, the CEO of PGC, and there is a yazirian in the background that looks like Hilo Headow." "Really?" "Yeah, looks like he's a crewmember of a shuttle that Chang is debarking." "Huh." I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
 January 1, 2012 - 9:31am | Many people end up with names that have nothing to do with their family history. Many African-Americans have English names because after the American Civil War they took thier former masters name. Also Washington is one of the most popular African-American names since many took it once freed to honor thier new freedom with the founding father's name. Many people of Italian and East European descent in America are called Smith and Jones. WHY? Because the immigration authorities on Ellis Island got tired of trying to figure out the spelling and just started assigning people names telling them "You're in America here is your new American name." You can get other reasons, adoptions, interracial marriages (which open up a whole new meaning in SF) or even like that couple who legally changed thier names to the characters in a certain teen vampire movie franchise (I pity there children). Sounds like a great job but where did you say we had to go? |
January 1, 2012 - 12:36pm | Pennsylvania Dutch gentleman is visiting NYC and spies, "Miller's Chinese Food" Curious how a Chinese establishment could end up with the name Miller he goes in and introduces himself to the owner only to find that the Chinese gentleman is named Miller. Enquiring how it happened he discovers that when the store owner's grandfather went through Ellis Island the person in line in front of him had the name Johann Miller. When the clerk asked for the grandfather's name he responded, "Tame Ting". I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
January 1, 2012 - 1:06pm | So, Rattraveller, can I assume you agree with me about the names Headow and Henshaw don't sound like yazirian names? I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
January 1, 2012 - 2:48pm | Yes I agree they are not traditional Yazirian names but as we were saying names come from many places. The Underground Railroad also ran to Mexico so many former slaves ended up there. Also some Irish ended up in Mexico also so we have two sources of non-traditional names in a country thought of having only one source of names. Sounds like a great job but where did you say we had to go? |
January 1, 2012 - 3:23pm | [sigh] Irish in Mexico is an interesting story but what about these two yazirians under consideration? My best guess is that either they wanted to loose their former identities (disinherited by their clans) or the name was assigned to them by someone else. It its the "assigned by someone else" then it could be officially assigned (Ellis Island sort of scenario) or nickname. Best candidate is joining Ground Fleet. Both were standing in line and got similar names, in alphabetical order; Headow & Henshaw. Did they happen to sign up while at Kdikit (Madderly's Star) which wasn't all that long since the Free World Rebellion and there was an official "no aliens" policy so that very humanish names were assigned to these two and they were accepted since everyone knew that this war was going to be very serious and every fighter alien or not was going to be needed. The course of the military careers then made them a name and contacts and they both opted to keep the names. Under the Kdikit scenario they actually signed up for the Kdikit Army formation being raised by the government to offer to the new federal UPF much like in the American Civil War where states would raise regiments and offer them to the government. Much like the Royal Guard units (which already existed and were deployed first to Laco) the Kdikit Army was raised almost as quickly and sent to Pale for Ground operations there. In the case of Headow and Henshaw they were accepted primarily because they weren't "bugs". Latter Henshaw, having risen to Major? returns to Kdikit, trading on his military career and connections and founds Merco offering employment to out of work verterans and becoming the first name in mercenary outfits in the Frontier, even attaining mega corp status with offices on most major planets. Using the Kdikit story means that both these yazirians need not be clanless. That of course begs the question of what are their clans? Pick some from Shadow's article, create new ones with new story behind them? Headow of course comes from Hentz, Henshaw can be from any other yazirian planet or moon; Yast and Exib stand out as good possibilities. Also leads to the question of what should their Yazirian names be? Hilo works for me as a Yaz name and you just know that his fellow privates played with that name a little and connected it to the time honored past time of playing poker. For Hilo's eventual rank in the KA/ Ground Fleet I like the rank of Lt., Henshaw as Major or even Col. since he starts Merco. EDIT: Henshaw was officially a major but held a brevet rank of Col. Both he and Hilo started out as buck privates and attrition and good performance saw them both rise in to officer ranks. Henshaw is affectionately refered to by his corporate officers as "the Colonel" in someways the people of Kdikit point to Henshaw to prove they're not racists, their protestations come off a bit like they're trying to convince themselves. the Vrusk dont really buy it though. [who knew I'd get the ground work for bios on two significant NPCs out of this thread?] I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
January 1, 2012 - 3:41pm | Breaking out SFman 8 and turning to one of my favorite articles, there is only one Hentz lineage clan that suggests itself to me for Hilo and that is Vantaria. The fact that Vantarians are lovers of and collectors of rare and beautiful objects give Hilo a motive to build his mega corp and could explain his digging his heels in and fighting Laco's War for 10 years desiring to control the Tetrarch pyramids and their associated artifacts. This could work or not if there was a great suggestion for a new clan. [one wonders when Shadow will show up in this thread] For Henshaw (Athor lineage- Yast or Exib) the clans that jump off the page at me are Pasamoria (the peace loving clan that fights for freedom) and Zigara (the one that coats their fangs and claws in metal for more damage in hand to hand). Hilo is the focus of this thread and as CEO of Streel hes more important then Henshaw so for my money what Henshaw's clan is is not as important as Hilo's. I could easily flip a coin on Pasamoria and Zigara for Henshaw. For Hilo I think some effort should be expended to get it right. Oh yeah and there is still the matter of what their yazirian names are. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
January 1, 2012 - 3:58pm | RE: http://www.starfrontiers.us/node/4281 Captain Raggs suggested this as a last name for a yazirian in the link above: Lu Konn; Hilo Lu Konn aka Hilo Headow? Imperial Lord also suggested Rizel in the same link: Ebser Rizel aka Ebser Henshaw? I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
 January 1, 2012 - 4:51pm | And personally don't have any issue at all with Headow being his true Yazirian name. Henshaw, yes, sounds human. But Headow doesn't really have to. It's really all in the pronunciation. If you say it so it sounds like meadow then maybe. But there are a lot of other possible pronunciations: He-a-doe (rhymes with dough) He-a-dow (rhymes with Ow!) Heh-doe Hee-doe Heh-dow Hee-dow He-ad-oo He-ad-ow Head-oo etc. with emphasis on various different syllables. Many of those could easily be Yazirian in orgin that simply look human when written out. If Yazirians use glottal stops like the scandinavian languages, the d could even be effectively silent. Ad Astra Per Ardua! My blog - Expanding Frontier Webmaster - The Star Frontiers Network & this site Founding Editor - The Frontier Explorer Magazine Managing Editor - The Star Frontiersman Magazine |
 January 1, 2012 - 6:32pm | IF, these are human names that these two yazirians adopted it could be because of culture. We have established that yazirians adopt humans into their clans and give them yazirian names. These two fighting in a human war would bond to their units like a clan. Given that they joined under human names like jedion suggests to appear on the books as humans they get their names at enlistment and it is printed on their uniforms. I do like however that these are just close sounding names to their yazirian names like Terl Obar is suggesting. I see the human officer that accepts their enlistment as picking the closest sounding human names. Or, even better, these two sat down with some human friends and picked the best sounding human names that matched their own as they were filling out the enlistment papers. After all this is a computerized society. The two yazirians show up at the enlistment office with their newly minted identity cards in hand and if the computer says that is their names then that's their names. -iggy |
 January 1, 2012 - 7:24pm | I have worked with many nationalities in my jobs, and it is inevitable that english speakers pick close sounding pronunciations to their co-workers names if they cannot pronounce them. Also at the other end, they will amke up a nickname for them if it beyond their comprehension to pronounce the name. But it really happens with any group from any country. So the yazirian names could be anything. I like what Iggy said about talking with human friends and coming up with the best names for them. Soldiers after all love nicknames. So after the war they just kept the names they went by. It makes sense to me what TerlObar said that it is based on pronunciation. So take their current name and give it a yazirian flare and there you have it. |
January 1, 2012 - 8:39pm | There's also the adoption factor. They could have names of adopted parents. One or the other's adopted parents could even be Vrusk, and the human-sounding name is as a result of their adopted parents working for a corporation with that name, and since they don't have the same ingrained loyalty to the corporations that their adopted parents do, and in Yazirian fashion, they put their surname last. Perhaps they were both orphans of the corporate wars left behind on Klikit and they were adopted by Vrusk parents. They discovered each other and grew up together. Because they did not have the same loyalty to a parent company as their adopted parents, they went off to be heads of two different companies. Maybe they are even brothers who were adopted by different Vrusk parents who worked for corporations with human-sounding names. Maybe they are even twins. It would explain their having the same aptitudes, and with similar backgrounds, how they ended up being heads of two powerful corporations. Maybe their parent's companies were bought out or were subsidiaries of the respective companies of which they became heads. View my profile for a list of articles I have written, am writing, will write. "It's yo' mama!" —Wicket W. Warrick, Star Wars Ep. VI: Return of the Jedi "That guy's wise." —Logray, Star Wars Ep.VI: Return of the Jedi Do You Wanna Date My Avatar? - Felicia Day (The Guild) |
January 2, 2012 - 2:46am | Let us not forget one thing. Hilo is the head of a megacorp. One does not get to that position by accepting things forced on them by others. Hilo took his name and choose to keep it for what must be very good and deeply ingrained personal reasons. He would have forced others to call him whatever name he choose sort of like a certain current music mogul changes his name/nickname every few years. Sounds like a great job but where did you say we had to go? |
January 2, 2012 - 4:21am | That's one possibility. But I think that's taking it a bit far. You don't see corporate heads today doing that, do you? Thus, it's not necessary. Just because Yazirians have life enemies and battle rage doesn't mean they're contrary all the time. He's in that position because he's intelligent, calculating and ambitious. It's a different type of cut-throat. It also means there's a strong likelihood that he's an habitual liar and sociopath. (His name could simply be a fabrication because he didn't like his real name or he's escaping an old life. But then, being a liar doesn't automatically mean his name is a lie either.) As a sociopath, he would only be concerned with what suits him, not about rejecting the name he was given because he didn't give it to himself. View my profile for a list of articles I have written, am writing, will write. "It's yo' mama!" —Wicket W. Warrick, Star Wars Ep. VI: Return of the Jedi "That guy's wise." —Logray, Star Wars Ep.VI: Return of the Jedi Do You Wanna Date My Avatar? - Felicia Day (The Guild) |
January 2, 2012 - 7:26am | Great input; I like the idea that the name change is based on pronunciation. PGC is still young at the time of SW1 and a date has not been set yet for the introduction of Pan Gal as a trade language. Humans mangling the name so that it sounds close to a common human name is very plausible. Corporate war was mentioned but that is too late in history to play apart. Both of these guys are born to yazirian society and raised in it's traditions and bring that with them as they engage galactic society throughout their lives spending most of the time outside of Yazirian Space. The relationship between them, I prefer it to not be as brothers or clan mates but simply built on brothers in arms, they're both Yaz and the both fought in the war. Naturally later after decades of friendship and corporate alliance their connection extends to a solid business alliance together. And frankly, the fact that Merco never said enough with casualties in the hundred of thoughsands during Laco's War makes sense if their relationship is fellow yazirians and brothers in arms from the war. They are both loyal to each other on a very personal level. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
January 2, 2012 - 10:03am | You could be right it's not like Puff Daddy or The Donald would have people call them anything else but thier true names. Sounds like a great job but where did you say we had to go? |
January 2, 2012 - 3:47pm | Here's another possibility: One is a clone of the other. And wouldn't it be a hella twist if Hilo is the clone? View my profile for a list of articles I have written, am writing, will write. "It's yo' mama!" —Wicket W. Warrick, Star Wars Ep. VI: Return of the Jedi "That guy's wise." —Logray, Star Wars Ep.VI: Return of the Jedi Do You Wanna Date My Avatar? - Felicia Day (The Guild) |
January 4, 2012 - 10:14am | And personally don't have any issue at all with Headow being his true Yazirian name. Henshaw, yes, sounds human. But Headow doesn't really have to. It's really all in the pronunciation. If you say it so it sounds like meadow then maybe. But there are a lot of other possible pronunciations:
I like the Heh pronunciations. And explaining the human look to the names as that being how the yazirian names spell out in Pan Gal. What would you do with Henshaw?He-a-doe (rhymes with dough) He-a-dow (rhymes with Ow!) Heh-doe Hee-doe Heh-dow Hee-dow He-ad-oo He-ad-ow Head-oo etc. with emphasis on various different syllables. Many of those could easily be Yazirian in orgin that simply look human when written out. If Yazirians use glottal stops like the scandinavian languages, the d could even be effectively silent. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
January 4, 2012 - 10:31am | Hens-haw Emphasis on the second syllable, the 'ns' soft and the second 'h' almost silent Ad Astra Per Ardua! My blog - Expanding Frontier Webmaster - The Star Frontiers Network & this site Founding Editor - The Frontier Explorer Magazine Managing Editor - The Star Frontiersman Magazine |
January 4, 2012 - 1:42pm | Tom I think you have the simplest solution, never hurts to follow the KISS rule. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
January 4, 2012 - 2:55pm | Maybe Hintz-owhu. People almost invariably drop the 'hu' from the end of names with it and since he's Yazirian, he may have come from Hintz. Perhaps it's a convention of naming
away from the planet, to help identify where they're from, like the other religious control factors, to identify him as separate from the heretics. View my profile for a list of articles I have written, am writing, will write. "It's yo' mama!" —Wicket W. Warrick, Star Wars Ep. VI: Return of the Jedi "That guy's wise." —Logray, Star Wars Ep.VI: Return of the Jedi Do You Wanna Date My Avatar? - Felicia Day (The Guild) |
