Hey Lurker and Consumer you have to see this....

jedion357's picture
November 26, 2010 - 9:23am
Comment from another thread:

w00t wrote:
To dig up some old SF bones I wanted to comment and quote not only Jellyboy but all those who don't contribute but rather consume;

Jellyboy wrote:
Right now at least one of you is out there saying "well why don't you help contribute and finish something?"  My answer is: I'm not creative like you folks are.  I love to enjoy your work.  Charge me for it if you wish, I'd gladly pay.

w00t wrote:
Although I feel like we beg (maybe too much) I really don't know what else to do that will inspire consumers to participate.

I'd like to spout off on this issue of creativity- and challenge any lurkers who are thinking they aren't creative enough- part of my creative process is to take ideas and information from a variety of sources and mix it together and bang out something new. That said I really am an idea whore and steal ideas from everywhere. No matter whatever your individual creativity score is you all have an opinion and you can voice it. the forums and projects are great places to air your opinion and 99% of us here are adults and we can give an take and even have our idea shot down without it becoming a blood bath of flaming posts and petulent emails.

I heartily encourage you to voice YOUR OPINIONS in the Forums and projects. I am creative but creativity stagnates in a vacuum. I desire to produce great content for the fanzine and to contribute to the revival of my favorite RPG but feedback from the community is crucial. I often start threads to illicit feedback from the community to see what everyone is thinking and that influences me in what I create.

Even if you just lurk and dont post much I encourage you to formally join the projects that might interest you. This means that when you hit the whats new button above you get a list of whats new in the projects you belong to as well. Projects are a great place to work on things that would largely junk up the main forums. For instance I've started a number of threads in the Zebulon's Guide Expanded project to talk about various topics concerning the humma; reproduction, society, native planet's ecology and its zoology and multiple threads like that in the general forums might be just tedious so it belongs in the project.

The downside of posting in the projects is that they're seen less and can get less feed back. Thus I'd like to challenge anyone who lurks on this site but does enjoy the content as well as the Fan Zine, please join the projects that interest you and consider commenting in active threads whether in the mian forums or the project forums. Your feedback and comments influence the overall content and actually contibute to the final product: The Frontiersman mag.
Please, don't make w00t beg, its pittiful to watch a robot beg.
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November 27, 2010 - 2:34pm

"Hey Lurker and Consumer you have to see this..."

LOL. I thought I was going to have to report a thread for spamming. :D

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Shadow Shack
November 27, 2010 - 4:16pm
Ascent wasn't alone in the title LOL

I think it goes without saying that if someone isn't creative, they don't RPG much. If they're truly not creative, then that means they have never penned their own adventures...
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AZ_GAMER's picture
November 27, 2010 - 5:17pm

Isn't taking something, even if it is just ideas, without giving something back a form of stealing?

Georgie's picture
November 27, 2010 - 8:59pm
Not if the ideas are freely offered. Giving back is a courtesy, especially if the only thing the taker has to offer is a "thank you".
The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong.    * Attributed to Mahatma Gandhi

jedion357's picture
November 27, 2010 - 9:20pm
AZ_GAMER wrote:

Isn't taking something, even if it is just ideas, without giving something back a form of stealing?

I think theft is the taking what you dont have right to take and in the process the one who has the right to it is deprived of its use or loses value due to what you took. Some will do nothing more than taking of ideas from here and the fanzine and they in no way diminish us. However, they likewise in no way fertilize or contribute too that which they enjoy and consume and would likely be sad to see it go away. There in lies the possible moral obligation: they should contribute. However, even if they dont contribute and the take the downloads and zine issues in a very small way they will contribute as they spread the revival- sooner or latter they will spread the game to others who may end up as active contributers on the forums and in the zine.

Those of us who are active are very much in the fore front of the revival but we are not all there is to the revival. For this I am glad. though I do earnestly wish that more would contribute even if its just feed back and their opinion on dicussion threads but then chatting in forums might not be their cup of tea like face book is  not my cup of tea, so such is life.

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Shadow Shack
November 28, 2010 - 3:42am
Sadly there isn't much that can be done about "users". Every forum for every topic has them. They look for info, absorb it, and move on.

I've hosted a model-specific motorcycle forum for nearly ten years now. In that time we have had thousands of members register, with less than half of them that posted at least once. Less than 300 are actually active. With an estimated 5000+ bikes belted out each year for 20 production years, we have a very small minority of their owners at said forum, and an even smaller minority of said minority that participate. And that's just domestic figures, not worldwide...we have some international members included in that minority of minorities, which makes that group an even smaller minority on a worldwide scale (I know of a German web group for the same bike that's about the same size and been on the web for almost as long --- and they have the same amount of traffic. So it's not just us).

Yes, it's nice if they pop in once in a while and say something, participate in a discussion, etc. It's sad because they're missing out on a great group of folks. It's sad because they're missing out on a great group of online games (which I too am currently missing out on thanks to this PC situation I'm still under). And it's really sad because if they'd just speak up once, they might discover a person with similar interests lives right down the road from them...
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