 March 1, 2010 - 11:13pm | anti shock implant is installable in robots- equipment list has an "r" next to the item The item description says nothing about it- just that a character must have surgery at a hospital Anti shock only protects against stun setting on weapons- electric weapons that do damage and stun list guass and A/S as defense- after studying the charts I really think the guass screen is for electric damage settings and A/S is for stun So it's possible to stun a robot? Thats what the rules imply. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
 March 2, 2010 - 2:02am | They could have a capacitor setup , series of energy storage devices that act like anti shock. Absorbing it for storage n use for a defense system. Gold is for the mistress-silver for the maid-copper for the craftsman cunning at his trade.But Iron-Cold Iron- is master of them all |
 March 2, 2010 - 5:58am | I dont see why you couldnt stun one. Afterall, its a STA check. Granted most robots will be just about in pieces when the STA is that low. I would also think that an Electro-stunner would be for effective at it than a Sonic Stunner. Time flies when your having rum. Im a government employee, I dont goof-off. I constructively abuse my time. |
 March 2, 2010 - 12:50pm | I don't know about stunning a robot. A well designed piece of electronic hardware can be made to be very ESD resistant. So much so that the shock it would take to effect it would be way beyond the thresholds safe for humans. A weapon stun setting designed for use on the core races would likely be too week for a properly designed robot. One of my past jobs had me working on medical lasers that were required to be protected from shorting the three phase 220V mains to the chassis such that an operator would not be shocked and the system would not malfunction and hurt the patient. Granted, one of the fail-safes is for the system to shut down. But upon removing the short the system would work. Thus a standard robot is likely already safely built to be shock resistant. Now, stun weapons designed to take out robots could be designed. Warn the user however, shoot it at a biological and your likely to kill it. -iggy -iggy |
 March 2, 2010 - 1:43pm | For playability robots should work like the races, they have STA just like characters. If a robot PC/NPC couldn't be stunned it might throw things off a bit. The Sentient Robots article, #6-p1, does not specify stun or shock effects on robots but it's assumed to work like a character. Thanks Jedi for the topic, I've updated the clarification for Frontier Space (TM). :-) |
 March 2, 2010 - 4:30pm | you stun a robot the same way you stun any creature over 100 STA, you hit them with more then one stunblast in a single round, each additional blast lowers the creatures STA by 100. Works for Doze Grenades wht not Stunners too. |
March 2, 2010 - 6:31pm | ooops sorry double post I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
March 2, 2010 - 6:29pm | you stun a robot the same way you stun any creature over 100 STA, you hit them with more then one stunblast in a single round, each additional blast lowers the creatures STA by 100. Works for Doze Grenades wht not Stunners too. good point, actually a very good point since you site a rule that already exists and apply it to this situation. I do believe I'll go with this. Also I'm unsure about sonic based stun having an effect vs electric based stun. but then again who's to say that sonic based weapons firing in mass - 2 or 3 nailing the same robot in the same turn won't set up enough of an overload to force the robot to pause. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
 March 2, 2010 - 8:33pm | For a robot, I would treat the AS device as additional and specialized ESD shielding as opposed to the surgical implant embedded in a biological's nervous system. And I am also in complete agreement with Mallak's interpretation of the rules. As for sonic stunners, just roll with it. Make up some obviously faky Star Trek sci-fi terminology to explain it. The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of
the strong. * Attributed to Mahatma Gandhi |
March 3, 2010 - 1:34pm | For a robot, I would treat the AS device as additional and specialized ESD shielding as opposed to the surgical implant embedded in a biological's nervous system. And I am also in complete agreement with Mallak's interpretation of the rules. As for sonic stunners, just roll with it. Make up some obviously faky Star Trek sci-fi terminology to explain it. I believe the term is techno babble: writers would turn in scripts with [INSERT TECNNO BABBLE HERE] I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
March 3, 2010 - 4:14pm | Yes! That's the terminology I was looking for. Just randomly mix terms like "harmonics" and "frequency" with terms like "motivator" and "processor" and - bingo! - you have a valid reason for sonic stunners to affect robots. The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of
the strong. * Attributed to Mahatma Gandhi |
 March 3, 2010 - 5:14pm | "The frequency of the stunner's modulated harmonic wave should be more than sufficient to disrupt the electromagnetic resonance of the robot's primary motivators, as well as its central processing unit." That Trek enough? "You're everything that's base in humanity," Cochrane continued. "Drawing up strict, senseless rules for the sole reason of putting you at the top and excluding anyone you say doesn't belong or fit in, for no other reason than just because you say so." —Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stephens, Federation |
March 3, 2010 - 5:42pm | "The frequency of the stunner's modulated harmonic wave should be more than sufficient to disrupt the electromagnetic resonance of the robot's primary motivators, as well as its central processing unit." That Trek enough? Will's Romulan heritage is showing. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
March 3, 2010 - 7:18pm | "The frequency of the stunner's modulated harmonic wave should be more than sufficient to disrupt the electromagnetic resonance of the robot's primary motivators, as well as its central processing unit." That Trek enough? Just barely.  The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of
the strong. * Attributed to Mahatma Gandhi |
March 3, 2010 - 7:28pm | OK, then: "Tha frequency of tha stooner's modulated harmonic wave should be morre than sufficient ta disroopt tha electromagnetic resonance of th' robot's primary motivators, as weal as its central processin' unit, and scramble its poor bairns." How bout that? "You're everything that's base in humanity," Cochrane continued. "Drawing up strict, senseless rules for the sole reason of putting you at the top and excluding anyone you say doesn't belong or fit in, for no other reason than just because you say so." —Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stephens, Federation |
March 3, 2010 - 7:31pm | Beam me up Scottie, we have a winner. The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of
the strong. * Attributed to Mahatma Gandhi |
 March 5, 2010 - 6:17pm | I would tend to think that an Anti-shock Implant may be useful for cybernetic robots since they have organic parts that work just about the same way as any of the core four races. An anti-shock implant would keep them from being stunned. As for other robots, I play any stun weapons as ineffective or do physical damage only to them to make it simple and no mess to explain. |
