Bap Bin Mines/Grenade?

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Anonymous
February 18, 2008 - 9:33pm
Refer to: Bap Bin Mines/Grenade.

I like the concept; it's fun; but I don't agree. Unfortunately, it's most likely impossible. In the rules, it said that you needed a bap pin on either side. The reason would clearly have to do with that it requires two things: focused energy, and the ability to monitor the transaction within the space. Perhaps you could produce a weapon that generates the energy, but there would be no way to monitor or control what happens with that energy without a bap bin.

For the record, some believe my supporting science and claiming that we need to look beyond current technology to be contradictory. It isn't. Modern technology is limited, and we should look beyond it. However, there are certain things we know for a fact that have not and will not change. One of those is that the only way to control where energy goes is to maintain a closed circuit or concentrated, uninterupted beam. That is what is missing here.
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w00t (not verified)
February 18, 2008 - 9:37pm
/me tosses a bap nade at Corjay.

*p00f*

400 Year science lesson concluded.

;-)

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Will the Stampede
November 28, 2010 - 12:05pm
If you want to play around with quantum theory a bit(it makes my little head hurt, but....), you can say that the bap nade, or even teleportation itself functions by tricking matter(subatomic particles, in this case) at the receiving end of the transaction that it's the person/grenade/whatever at the transmitting end of the transaction, thus setting up a rift in spacetime between the two points, allowing teleportation to occur.

Greg Bear's Forge Of God series(The Forge Of God, Anvil Of Stars, quite possibly others) utilizes this kind of technology.
" 'Beware the Beast, Man, for he is the Devil's pawn. Alone among God's primates, he kills for sport, for lust, for greed. Yea, he will murder his brother to possess his brother's land. Let him not breed in great numbers, for he will make a desert of his home and yours. Shun him; drive him back into his jungle lair, for he is the harbinger of death."

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jedion357
December 3, 2010 - 6:56pm
"I signed aboard this ship to practice medicine, not to have my atoms scattered back and forth across space by this gadget." -- McCoy (Space Seed)
I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers!

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Will the Stampede
December 4, 2010 - 11:59am
But, that's the nice thing about noach technology(as Bear calls it). Nobody's atoms get scattered anywhere, they just appear at the target destination.

(Ironically, a question of ethics concerning the transporter does appear in Bear's only ST novel, Corona.)


" 'Beware the Beast, Man, for he is the Devil's pawn. Alone among God's primates, he kills for sport, for lust, for greed. Yea, he will murder his brother to possess his brother's land. Let him not breed in great numbers, for he will make a desert of his home and yours. Shun him; drive him back into his jungle lair, for he is the harbinger of death."