jedion357 June 28, 2015 - 1:13pm | Why would this planet get named Rupert's Hole? I don't remember ever hearing of another sci Fi location named in a similar manner. We can presume that Cassidine was discovered and explored about the time the vrusk, dralasites and humans met and that this led to the naming of Triad as the first multi species colony designed to promote exchange, learning and understanding. But why add the word hole to Rupert's planet? I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
iggy June 28, 2015 - 1:55pm | Maybe it's inspired by a geological feature on the planet. Maybe there is a massive hole in one of the contents that is visible from space like the storm on Jupiter is. Something the size of Australia with no water in it. Maybe it is even some cool colors because of high mineral content. Or to keep with the agriculture and industrial use of the planet it could be an Australia sized green plane surrounded by ice capped mountains or desert. That however is less like a hole and more an oasis or valley. Another possibility is a great meteor impact crater clearly visible from space that sticks out against an idyllic content formation. I like the massive crater best. -iggy |
jedion357 June 28, 2015 - 2:20pm | One thought: the explorer name Rupert, an adventurer, soldier of fortune and if some of the rumors are true even pirate or priveteer discovered a rock formation like in Airwolf that he use to land his ship in side of hence the name . I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
Tchklinxa June 28, 2015 - 2:34pm | Well a guy named Rupert Cassidine lived there first, being not minded to be told where he had to live. He started a little community for people who didn't want to be socialized to the new ideas going down on Triad and he started this bar with the best (read illegal drinks around) and pretty soon all the spacer scamp types where stopping by the "hole". I like the big Impact Crater idea, it strikes me as a nice sort of wild west name, maybe the first colonists settled in the Crater, where the unseemly types, ex cons and Rupert's Planet became Rupert's Hole, a few generations latter the populace is more respectable but still way independent, still more "wild west" or classic "outback" type culture. So the name has double meanings. Maybe the first colonists where not all colonists maybe it was more of a penal colony... where several races sent their undesirables to eek out a living. Get sent to the "hole" in the early days might have meant only a 50% chance of making it. Just some thoughts... the name is way Outback/Wild West to me "Never fire a laser at a mirror." |
iggy June 28, 2015 - 2:58pm | Good, but not for a whole planet. If it was the name of a city build around said hollow mesa then I say yes, but this is a whole planet. One thing I was thinking about was that Rupert could have watched the meteor or comet impact the planet. Freash thought right after writing that. What if this is a non-GodCo terra forming experiment by humans. They captured a big chuck of ice in the system's oort cloud and fixtured it with engines and smashed it into the planet to add much needed water. The result could be a large crator ocean on one side of the planet surrounded by green farm lands. The rest of the planet could be dry continents and land locked seas. The oort comet could have been choosen to get the water content of the planet up from 50% to 70%. This would make it a very big chunk of ice and give the world some side effects of undesired techtonic activity. However, Rupert's Hole is the sixth planet discovered in the Frontier and it is early, 249 pf. Note though that the timeline states discovered so that does not mean it was ideal for colonization and could have gone by it's scientific name of Cassidine 3 or Cassidine 4 (whichever number it is) while Triad was the focus of colonization. Both are initially human worlds with Triad not becoming formally multicultural for about 209 GSY. So Rupert's Hole could have been a marginal outpost that is barely habitable then when Rupert sees the Yazirians enter the frontier and start yaziriforming worlds he tries it with Cassidine X and succeeds. Because he was working with a really marginal world it is a success but in yazirian terms it is not a great choice for a yazirformed world as they tend to think of getting a sutible life bearing world and changing its ecosystems to yazirian as the goal while the old human idea is to take something lifeless and make it support life. -iggy |
jedion357 June 28, 2015 - 4:45pm | Great idea Iggy. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
Tchklinxa June 28, 2015 - 5:47pm | I like your idea iggy... I was mussing on the idea that Rupert was/is a marginal world and there is a huge canyon which is really from the air a hole I am taliking massive deep and wide very unnatural massive ancient hole (probably left over scarring from an ancient race now long gone), very ancient and worn... But I like your idea better iggy. "Never fire a laser at a mirror." |
jedion357 June 28, 2015 - 7:35pm | So.... human terra-forming = blunt force trauma and yazirian terra-forming = surgical precision I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
iggy June 28, 2015 - 9:32pm | So.... human terra-forming = blunt force trauma and yazirian terra-forming = surgical precision Pretty much. And I'd think that this is the one and only attempt at human lead terra forming. The Yazirians and GodCo have pretty much demonstrated that taking your time is a better method. -iggy |