 October 13, 2014 - 4:27pm | Hydrogel was proposed here: http://www.starfrontiers.us/node/7134 its a gell that treats burns (any- lasers, fire etc) giving back +5 STA over any other medical treatment Invented by the eorna. I assume its usable by anyone and not just a medic or rather that any PC may self medicate with this. To my knowledge it has not made it into a magazine yet and If I can come up with at least 2 more medical items I'll do a Minzii Market place article Anyone have a new medical device, medicine or treatment? I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
October 13, 2014 - 4:40pm | This is a treatment based on existing tech and inspired by the scene in "Aliens" when the Lt was monitoring his team from the vehicle: all team members have a med inject implant and body comp med inject implant is an upgrade holding more than one injectable dose body comp has the apps that let it send data to the team medic's body comp and he is able to medically treat team members without being at their side. For example in the middle of a firefight. One dose each of Stay dose, Stim dose and biocort give the medic some options to save another character at chronocom ranges. I believe that the existing med inject implant only allows one dose total so this would call for an upgraded implant which would be new. description would also specify all the apps the body comp should run The new med inject implant could be able to wirelessly tie into a character's chronocom so that the character does not even need a body comp, just the medic treating him plus the codes that the implant responds to. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
 October 13, 2014 - 6:24pm | Alternity has a trauma pack that installs in some of their heavier armors and releases healing chems into the bloodstream on command. A one shot kind of deal. Stars Without Number has a Lazarus Patch, which stabilizes characters at 0 hp. Something like an emergency pack that anyone can use to treat a fallen comrade to stabilize their condition until medical help arrives or a freeze field can be activated? Another idea, not quite medical, but health related: Osmotic Biofilm: Water purification - Sewage treatment. A thin organic film that eats up anything nasty in water. Anyways, a couple of ideas there... |
 October 14, 2014 - 9:55am | Space Travel is not a happy experience for many since there is no artificial gravity. The disorientation and nausea make many a traveller very sick in the crew clean up in cabin 5 sorta way. Now on Earth that Was a patch applied to the skin to slow dose medication seemed to help but they do not work on three of the Core Four races. Vrusk exoskeletons do not absorb, Dralasites tend to eat the patch and Yazirians do not like to shave a spot to place it. However our friends at PGC long ago invented the Smooth Sailing buzzer. This device looks like a clip on locket and can be attached to clothing, Dralasite belts, Yazirian capes and even a sticky to attach it to Vrusk exoskeleton. It generates a white noise field which smoothes out the ill effects of space travel sickness. Sounds like a great job but where did you say we had to go? |
 October 15, 2014 - 4:28am | field compress or bandage with a chemical that stops bleedng |
 October 15, 2014 - 6:53am | field compress or bandage with a chemical that stops bleedng QuickClot Combat Gauze. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAGMa3VtrMU Time flies when your having rum. Im a government employee, I dont goof-off. I constructively abuse my time. |
October 15, 2014 - 6:59am | I think I have some conversions from other systems. It's been awhile since I have looked or worked on anything. Is there an article or two in the SFMan or Frontier Ex with medical items? I dont want double up on something. Time flies when your having rum. Im a government employee, I dont goof-off. I constructively abuse my time. |
October 16, 2014 - 9:20am | I think I have some conversions from other systems. It's been awhile since I have looked or worked on anything.
I'm pretty sure thats a no. Is there an article or two in the SFMan or Frontier Ex with medical items? I dont want double up on something. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
October 16, 2014 - 5:37pm | Is there an article or two in the SFMan or Frontier Ex with medical items? I dont want double up on something.
I'm pretty sure thats a no. Hmm ok. I thought someone had done up some slap patches simular to the ones found in Shadowrun. I'm not finding anything either. Will try to drainstorm this over the next few days and cough up a submission. Time flies when your having rum. Im a government employee, I dont goof-off. I constructively abuse my time. |
October 17, 2014 - 3:10am | Actually I think there was a medical robot. I'm sure I looked at the patches from Shadow Run but cant really remember them. Perhaps we should consider other measures that PCs lacking medical skill could use as a stop gap measure till they get to a medic. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
 October 21, 2014 - 4:02am | The Rejuvenation Clinic These are mentioned in SF somewhere I think. I've been using them for so long I don't remember. Anyway, they are a staple of science fiction books, such as Asimov, Heinlein and Chalker. In movies, not as much, although in Back to the Future II, Doc gets a rejuvenation treatment. They also had it in Bicentennial Man. Cells are revitalized, and organs are replaced with cloned or cybernetic ones. I play that this is the backbone of longevity in the Frontier. A full treatment can add 40 years to someone's life. In theory, there is no limit to how many treatments you can get, however in practice, when you've had 3 treatments, the mind starts to lose the ability to retain memories. |
October 21, 2014 - 4:08am | In my game I use the diagnostic glove from the TV series Earth 2. I have mixed feelings about the show itself (some aspects were great, others were abysmal), but I always thought the glove was cool. Another idea from Earth 2 is the bone-mending vaccine. Everyone is assumed to have received this. When you break a bone, your body automatically starts repairing it. Breaks can be repaired in 24 hours. |
October 21, 2014 - 4:46am | I dont see how to work the bone mending vaccine or the diagnostic glove into SF. There is little difference between passing a hand held scanner over a patient or passing a glove over the patient. the glove will need some other capabilitiy to warrent buying it- perhaps it confers a +20% bonus to all surgery skill checks I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
October 21, 2014 - 4:52am | The diagnostic glove is essentially a bioscanner. It never actually touches the patient. It looks like a high-tech white gauntlet that goes up to the elbow, covered with lights & buttons & readouts. It indicates the patient's physical condition, diagnoses ailments, suggests treatments, estimates time of survival under present conditions, etc. It can also determine whether a plant or animal is edible, poisonous, or has an unusual biochemistry. It gives extensive information regarding its physiology. You must be medical personnel in order to use it. |
October 21, 2014 - 5:02am | What if its a bracer thats worn on the arm like a body computer and can replace the medscanner from the med kit. It has a linked pair of goggles and instead of the doctor processing data from a 2D screen he's able to process data in 3D virtually via the scanner in the bracer and the holo display in the goggles. The benefit is in its use during surgery +20% to all surgical operations. Otherwise its just a med scanner, though one night use it to say show a being their unborn progeny by passing the goggles while scanning the abdomen. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
October 21, 2014 - 5:32am | Lots of ideas and I'm going to propose a list for submission to the fan zines. The items will be things with quantifiable impact on the game so if I dont include your idea and you can think of game mechanics or other for how it would be worth while to a PC, then speak up. Hydro-gel- cures +5 STA of burn damage. Can only be used once/ 10 hours or 1/day? VITAL (Virtual Imagining and Trauma Assist tooL) Scanner is a bracer body comp and goggles device. The bracer is a standard med scanner worn on the body but paired with the holo display in the goggles is provides a benefit during surgery +20%. Medical Operations progarm for robots- its not actually been detailed anywhere but the installation fo this program into a standard or anthropomorphic robot body allows it to perform medical skill checks at the skill level of the program's level. The program has high function point requirements and cannot be installed in a robot below level 5. Perhaps some discussion of using the med inject implant from Zebs RE: the Lazarus Patch- the freeze field sort of does this. Any ideas on game details for this that would make it worth having over the freeze field? RE: Smooth Sailing Buzzer- this item lacks real game impact unless someone has a house rule for "space sickness" and naturally in an RPG about larger than life heroes the PCs never get space sickness. However, RT's description of it says that it puts out white noise field to sooth the sick traveller. There is potential there for a low powered/ extremely short ranged jamming and or impact on sonic technology. so while its a fluff medical device without real impact on medical situation in game it has some potential for use by ingenious players. the question is what would be the impact of it on com devices, the various scanners, sonic weapons? So the above list is what I see as a potential submission aside from converting items from other systems. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
 October 21, 2014 - 6:43am | Freeze fields require the medical skill to use. I think the idea with the Lazarus patch was that anybody could use it. ----------------------------------------------- |
October 21, 2014 - 8:16am | Freeze fields require the medical skill to use. I think the idea with the Lazarus patch was that anybody could use it.
IC so a Lazarus patch should probably not be as effective as a freeze field at saving a character. Though it might be used by a lmedic in a mass cal situation. What about coma patches. One induces coma to stablize the severely injured and the other induces coma to affect rapid healing. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
 October 21, 2014 - 10:32am | VITAL (Virtual Imagining and Trauma Assist tooL) Scanner is a bracer body comp and goggles device. The bracer is a standard med scanner worn on the body but paired with the holo display in the goggles is provides a benefit during surgery +20%. You created an acronym for a word that would work just fine as a stand-alone. The word for that is "OVERKILL". "Obsessive Vain Excessive Revising Kickers In Linguistic PlaceabLes".  I love ya, man. View my profile for a list of articles I have written, am writing, will write. "It's yo' mama!" —Wicket W. Warrick, Star Wars Ep. VI: Return of the Jedi "That guy's wise." —Logray, Star Wars Ep.VI: Return of the Jedi Do You Wanna Date My Avatar? - Felicia Day (The Guild) |
October 21, 2014 - 12:43pm | VITAL (Virtual Imagining and Trauma Assist tooL) Scanner is a bracer body comp and goggles device. The bracer is a standard med scanner worn on the body but paired with the holo display in the goggles is provides a benefit during surgery +20%. You created an acronym for a word that would work just fine as a stand-alone. The word for that is "OVERKILL". "Obsessive Vain Excessive Revising Kickers In Linguistic PlaceabLes". I love ya, man. I grew up on government installations where everything has an acrostic: AMS, SPS, MMS; ad nosium in college and the professional world I also encountered the same thing but with the added twist that the acrostic was made into an actual word to aid memmory (if you've hurt your back you need back AID: Asprin, Ice, Deep knee bends). I do the same thing sometimes in the Frontier as I believe the same impetus to do this would also exist in the Frontier. Glad i can amuse you. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
October 21, 2014 - 7:15pm | Freeze fields require the medical skill to use. I think the idea with the Lazarus patch was that anybody could use it.
IC so a Lazarus patch should probably not be as effective as a freeze field at saving a character. Though it might be used by a lmedic in a mass cal situation. What about coma patches. One induces coma to stablize the severely injured and the other induces coma to affect rapid healing. In the Alpha Dawn book Staydose is listed as being able to slow down a body's functions so it can survive with zero or fewer Stamina points. But can only be administered by a trained medic. Time flies when your having rum. Im a government employee, I dont goof-off. I constructively abuse my time. |
October 21, 2014 - 9:53pm | I grew up on government installations where everything has an acrostic: AMS, SPS, MMS; ad nosium in college and the professional world I also encountered the same thing but with the added twist that the acrostic was made into an actual word to aid memmory (if you've hurt your back you need back AID: Asprin, Ice, Deep knee bends). I do the same thing sometimes in the Frontier as I believe the same impetus to do this would also exist in the Frontier. Glad i can amuse you. I see. Not a problem. Have fun. Peace.View my profile for a list of articles I have written, am writing, will write. "It's yo' mama!" —Wicket W. Warrick, Star Wars Ep. VI: Return of the Jedi "That guy's wise." —Logray, Star Wars Ep.VI: Return of the Jedi Do You Wanna Date My Avatar? - Felicia Day (The Guild) |
October 23, 2014 - 6:51pm | Freeze fields require the medical skill to use. I think the idea with the Lazarus patch was that anybody could use it.
IC so a Lazarus patch should probably not be as effective as a freeze field at saving a character. Though it might be used by a lmedic in a mass cal situation. What about coma patches. One induces coma to stablize the severely injured and the other induces coma to affect rapid healing. In the Alpha Dawn book Staydose is listed as being able to slow down a body's functions so it can survive with zero or fewer Stamina points. But can only be administered by a trained medic. Yeah, I'm having trouble trying to figure a way to work in a Lazerus patch so that it fits into the equipment list without too much trouble. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
 November 2, 2014 - 8:50am | I found a site with a list of sci-fi medical ideas: http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/Science_List_Detail.asp?BT=Medical I posted the gizmos & ideas which should all link to more info... Some of these might be good for various alien tech... and as was pointed out with patches some might work better with some species than others: pills, shots, sprays, even things to us that might look like backwards primitive magic could be medical to a species, or something found from another time period. The Longevity Pill comes from one of the sci-fi serries that humans take... loose the pills, age faster. Oxygen Pill (real old sci-fi) it somehow boosts either Oxygen in the body or improves blood cells abilities to take in Oxygen in thin atmosphere... Star Trek had a shot for that too. What I am getting at is there could be redundant medical that overlaps but one is more effecient or unique to a race/culture and so on. Like today we have drugs for pain and acupuncture, how would the average American react to the ER staff whipping out a huge pile of Acupunture needles after saying "we are going to give you something for the pain." The non-alternate medically inclinded would freak! We also have medical philosophies/attitudes around certain activities like birth (which other people can can be very judgemental about to people in their sub-cultures who choose a choice the culture frowns on)... 1) All Natural, drugs bad (there is then a range with extreme ends to the spectrum that can being very open or completely rejecting of any medical assistance to the mother & child and birth setting can also an issue), 2) Drugs & Medical help/facility great, 3) Forget the birthing non-sence C-section is the civilized way to go (this was what the socialite/elites of society where doing at one time). Breast Feeding vs Formula also falls into the quasi medical-society catagory... Breast Feeder advocates only focus on the benefits (all healthy, no risks attitude which is untrue), generally are activist inclinded (not all but a bunch are), are very judgemental of mothers that do not (you are harming your child, you should quit your job or invest in a pump ect) and rude about it too. It never occurs to them that some females can not Breast Feed... milk produced is insuffiecent, child fails to thrive on it, & nipples can have a genetic flaw... as far as I can tell this is an X gene trait, which means it is passed to daughters... one side of my family can not breast feed if they try the children starve (so wet nurse or formula it is). Just some examples of how society & medicine are sometimes a bit more complex.
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November 2, 2014 - 11:19am | I know it is a lot... but many are cool ideas, & the research is there to browse through from sci-fi, some are real things too... This idea would exist in some form in the UPF I am sure plus who doesn't want to say "death-reversal equipment" to a PC group! LOL
I think a small hover type bot either white with red logo or yellow & red logo that could do basic life saving things for the Core 4 in cities or facilities or larger ships would exist. "Never fire a laser at a mirror." |
November 2, 2014 - 2:07pm | I know it is a lot... but many are cool ideas, & the research is there to browse through from sci-fi, some are real things too... This idea would exist in some form in the UPF I am sure plus who doesn't want to say "death-reversal equipment" to a PC group! LOL
I think a small hover type bot either white with red logo or yellow & red logo that could do basic life saving things for the Core 4 in cities or facilities or larger ships would exist. What about a hvy duty robot with altered movement method of rotor and the auto-doc coffin (sfman #?) on board. We've already had a trauma recovery robot but this one would fly in, scoop up the casualty, repair, charge their credit account and send them on their way before returning to its depot. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
November 2, 2014 - 2:52pm | That would be perfect for a major city and maybe a few well funded out of the way places, you know club-med in space maybe with some risker fun for some... civilized play spots for the rich, or tourist spots that make lots of Credits, but people sometimes get in trouble, or major research planets, or agriculture planets even, where it might be more practical if say every one is spread out... plus if the bot was needed to gain access to a depot for some reason, that could be fun watching the Players try to figure out how to pull that off...  The Hypo-Arm as used in the story it was pulled from could well be an unexpected surprise on a ship bunk: (You know for those days you need to kidnap the PCs):" ...the padded arms slipped across his bunk, pinning him down securely. He watched the panel slip back in the wall next to him and the hypo arm slide through, moving erratically like a snake as its metal fingers sought him out. They touched his ankle and the serpent's tooth of the needle snapped free. The last thing he saw was the needle slipping into his vein, then the drug blacked him out." "Never fire a laser at a mirror." |
November 2, 2014 - 4:52pm | @ Tchklinxa: WOW information overload- I'm trying to catch up after being out of things for most of a week. Many things in those list are hard to convert to the SF setting however: 1. Short wave surgical knife- call it a wave field scapel which can cut without cutting the skin- in other words it cuts beneath the skin with out puncturing the skin. Works by having two wave fields out of phase and at right angles to each other, the point of intersection is where the cutting is done and its possible to perform surgery beneath the skin. Requires a full set of wave field tools like wave field forcepts and wave field probes and a medical scanner being held by an assistent (Hello, nurse.) Downside is -10% to surgery skill check but upside is that it can all but eliminate the chance of an infection. Infections can be dangerous see the Medical subskill 'Controlling Infection'. If the medic is not in a sterile facility and or the nature of things is that there is a chance of infection he can opt to use wave field tools. Many surgeons perfer using the classic sonic and laser scapels as they are easier to use than the wave field tools and by cutting the skin they can better see what they are doing. Wave Field tools are pricey. these are mine: 2. Athilor Cream: Yazirian herbal remedy that if rubbed on wounds will triple the natural healing rate Wounds heal naturally at a rate of 1 point for every 20 hours the wounded character spends resting. thus use of this cream with rest would restore 3 points per 20 hours. unfortunately this ancient herb remedy only works on Yazirians. One 5 dose jar (a dose is enough for one 20 period of rest/healing) cost 12Cr3. But have no fear SynthCorp has developed Athilor 4 cream, formulated to work on all of the species in the 'core four' but in only doubles the healing restoring 2 points/ 20 hours rest. One 5 dose jar (a dose is enough for one 20 period of rest/healing) cost 10Cr 4. Nerve Block Nanite. These nanites are injected into the character's system and will control pain for the character reducing the pain penalty for half STA from -20 to -10 preventing the movement penalty of half speed for 1/2 STA. Characters that continue fun move rate despite 1/2 STA risk increased injury and must pass a current STA check or lose 1 STA. the nanites persist in the body for 5 years but a booster injection is all that is required to extend them for another 5 years. Initial injection 2000 Cr, Booster injection 500 Cr. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
November 2, 2014 - 11:23pm | Tapeworm Tranquilizer could work... yes I agree eew... but would make a great alien genetically modified creature or some sort of bio-mechanical device. The tech could probably be used to release other needed meds as well. Selektrogel though not "needed" for game play could in theory create a problem in population demographics. The Vestan Parasite though not for healing would make a great annoying parasite... turns out the ship's infested! "Never fire a laser at a mirror." |
