PF-5 Shadow Star

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iggy
April 20, 2014 - 1:58am
Is the Pf-5 Shadow Star shown in the documents section the ship that is show on the table of contents page of the Knight Hawks Basic book?
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Ascent
April 20, 2014 - 3:43am
If so, there are a few problems with the reproduction.

Using the warp feature in Photoshop, I was actually able to correct most of the problems, but there is still an issue with the air intakes connected to the fuselage near the nose. Also, there are nose wings missing and there should be a vectoring thruster behind the cockpit, while the cockpit is a bit too long.


This may be inspired by the ship in the KH Basic book, but, understandably, it has a lot of modificaitons to account for otherwise hard to translate parts of the image in the book.

Regarding the image in the book, it is interesting to note that the larger ships seem to be designed horizontally with artificial gravity in mind.
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April 20, 2014 - 9:35am
Here is the figher I am comparing ShadowShacks Shadow Star fighter to.
Knight Hawks Basic TOC Fighter
I think the wing under the nose is not actually attached to the nose but rather just the visible portion of the lower left wing.  I do not see air intakes on the nose.  I think the item behind the cockpit is the top left engine.
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April 20, 2014 - 12:40pm
Yes, I know, that's the one I based my statement on. But you also have to look at the other fighters in the image that are the same design. The line is too long for it to belong to the lower wing. That is a nose wing, it is connected all the way to the nose and does not match any of the other wings in any way. Looking at the other fighters, you can see that it is attached to the nose. Also note the very skinny wing structure, and how the main wings bend upward.


I'm sure SS intended to duplicate this fighter, and I think he did a fairly decent job with limited information, but he went from the one image without considering the others.
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April 20, 2014 - 3:59pm
Given the wings, this thing was meant to enter and exit an atmosphere.  With one verticle rudder wing under the craft then it either does not land on it's belly but rather does vertical take off and landing.  Or maybe the belly rudder splits and folds under the wings to allow the landing gear to deploy.
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April 20, 2014 - 6:47pm
It is peculiar, but it may fold up over the top in the back, like one of the Star Wars shuttles. But the abundance of wings struck me as aquatic. perhaps the fighters are launched from an underwater platform. In order to transfer from water to air flight in an instant, they would require a lot of stabilization, and a single underwing would be ideal for that, holding it steady, treading water as it transitions from water to air.
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April 22, 2014 - 5:32pm
iggy wrote:
Is the Pf-5 Shadow Star shown in the documents section the ship that is show on the table of contents page of the Knight Hawks Basic book?

It's loosely based on the interior cover craft. I try to avoid direct plagiarism, more so after the Colonial Chrome fiasco where small portions of my deck plans came into "question". Even my Pacific class freighter has subtle changes from the original Gullwind design, along with added bits not seen in the original.

I wanted a pre-UPF design for the Shadow Star so I started looking at older jet-powered aircraft and the SF sources, and was inspired by the interior art fighter along with an F-4 Phantom jet. The quintet of chemical drives was added to the stern to reflect the aged design. While I never got around to multi-views of the ship, I ditched the keel/rudder wing on the bottom. The original PF designation stemmed from Pan Galactic Fighter, later re-designated as PF for Pre-Federation (ditto for the sibling PF-4 Mage Star). It should be noted all three of those fighters from the deck plans page are pre-UPF designs.



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