jedion357 January 18, 2014 - 5:03pm | Terl Obar gave us a great article on a near pass of a brown dwarf through a solar system with examples generated from software simulating our solar system and this was used as an possible reason for the yazirian star exodus to the Frontier. (SFman) I've taken to calling the Yazirian Home planet Yazira with such references as the "Garden of Yazira" in dealing with the yazirian expertese in terraforming, GODCo and in writing tenets for the Fo1 religion (FE #2) I think most people might roll with their home planet being called Yazira much like in sci fi when you have references to Earth and Earthlings. but what about a name for the yazirian home system? I'm wracking my brain and can't remember there being one put out there by anyone but maybe there was. Any ideas? Naturally a planet called Yazira isn't terribly creative but you go with what you got to work with and surprisingly we dont have a lot of Yazirian names in cannon other than the system and planet names for 4 systems. I've already "coined" a yazirian name based on the star catalog: Hargaru is a character in a short story coming out soon. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
rattraveller January 18, 2014 - 5:31pm | Might the proper name be Yazi? Then we could do all kinds of great Yazi (Nazi) jokes since GodCo runs like the Nazi regime. Sounds like a great job but where did you say we had to go? |
OnceFarOff January 18, 2014 - 7:30pm | Taking Scree Fron as an example, bow about Bree Yark? :p Seriously though, how about Yazir rather than ending in an 'A'? |
jedion357 January 18, 2014 - 8:12pm | LOL, I surrender, it took me a minute to place Bree Yark. Why not on the Yazi as a generic referrence to things yazirian I like Yazira with an A as it feels femine even though thats a real world sentiment. It fits with the concept of "garden of yazira" Athor & Araks both systems start with A The Moons of Yast start with vowels: Ime and Exib In the reverse of Earth and Sol, what if the Yazi home system had the star starting with a vowel? and in this case an A. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
KRingway January 19, 2014 - 4:33am | Perhaps the planet is called Ya Ziri, and is commonly boiled down to one word. |
LastIdaho January 19, 2014 - 9:00am | Maybe Ya is the word for star in their language? |
jedion357 January 19, 2014 - 11:47am | I like Ya Ziri, which would be commonly shorten to Ziri. Ancient form is Ya Ziri and modern form is simply Ziri. In much the same tradition as science fiction the yazirian home star was called Ya Ziri and the planets had designations based on the star (Sirius I, Siruis II, etc.)However except in this case Yazira has the literal etamological meaning of "Garden of Ya Ziri" since it was the inhabitable rock in the Ya Ziri system. The preffix "ya" means star and the suffix "ra" means garden in ancient Angladock which is one of the ancient dialects of yazirian speach. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
KRingway January 19, 2014 - 2:11pm | It makes more sense to me that they refer to themselves either by the name of their planet, or to themselves as a species. I say this as the term would predate their ability to explore space or be aware of it as a concept in the same way that it's understood up to a certain point in their collective history. |
jedion357 January 19, 2014 - 4:14pm | It could be that the name yazirian is actually a Pan Gal word. and that it was applied by polyvox software or by the other races as they began to learn to communicate with yazirians. Note: I treat English as Pan Gal and will write stuff on this site or in a magazine saying "such and such translates into Pan Gal as give the meaning in English. This is not to say that English = Pan Gal but simply that I pretend that we are all communicating in Pan Gal already. And since Pan Gal was an invented language it sort of fits since English is such a mongrel language. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
iggy January 19, 2014 - 7:01pm | @Jedion I wish an example of the suffix "ra". I also treat english as a translation of pan gal. Pretty much a direct word for word translation but not actually. -iggy |
KRingway January 20, 2014 - 2:58am | Yes, maybe Ya Ziri is the PanGal version. It seems to me that the actual Yazirian pronunciation would be a little different, given their physiology (mouth shape). |
oTTo February 3, 2014 - 2:36am |
Ya Ziri would be a good connection. Pan-Gal did send many researchers and recorders when first connecting with the Yazarian people. The initial wonderings were of course, where is home, and through the linguists deciphering common terms, tones, phrases, could derive yazirian from the home world word. Ya Ziri is a great name, IMHO...spoken from an only ever played as yazirian player oTTo |
iggy October 2, 2016 - 6:25pm | OK time to resurect this good old thread. Going with the system name as Ya Ziri and the planet name as Yazira. Then rereading SFman 16 (homework boys and girls), Ya Ziri is in the Vast Expanse and the Yazirians sent vessels to "brave the Vast Expanse" and only one returned six years later. Given the accellerate to 1%C, a few seconds inthe void, and decellerate from 1%C travel method, six years is a long time so this implies that they were checking a lot of systems or far out in the expanse. I feel enclined to mix the two and have Ya Ziri farther than the longest jump routes (20+LY) and have them checking several systems before success at Araks. I also get the feeling that they sent as many small ships as they could while building the exodus fleet. These ships would have been half a dozen to a dozen crew packed in like a submarine but with tones of space for supplies and exploration drones. Then there would have been at least a dozen sent out and over half failed to make the jump out of the Vast Expanse while the Yazirians built up their knowledge of void jumping. So the questions: How far out is Ya Ziri from Araks? Where there other systems charted before Araks? Did the Yazirians only jump toward the Frontier? -iggy |
JCab747 October 3, 2016 - 9:07pm | Going with the system name as Ya Ziri and the planet name as Yazira. Then rereading SFman 16 (homework boys and girls), Ya Ziri is in the Vast Expanse and the Yazirians sent vessels to "brave the Vast Expanse" and only one returned six years later. Given the accellerate to 1%C, a few seconds inthe void, and decellerate from 1%C travel method, six years is a long time so this implies that they were checking a lot of systems or far out in the expanse. I feel enclined to mix the two and have Ya Ziri farther than the longest jump routes (20+LY) and have them checking several systems before success at Araks. I also get the feeling that they sent as many small ships as they could while building the exodus fleet. These ships would have been half a dozen to a dozen crew packed in like a submarine but with tones of space for supplies and exploration drones. Then there would have been at least a dozen sent out and over half failed to make the jump out of the Vast Expanse while the Yazirians built up their knowledge of void jumping. So the questions: How far out is Ya Ziri from Araks? Where there other systems charted before Araks? Did the Yazirians only jump toward the Frontier? Sorry, I've been a bit destracted by yea old real world tasks to update any of my postings, but I just wanted to thank Iggy for resurreting this thread. This is a topic of thought of and kind of toyed with at the edges though I think jedion has a much better handle what to do about the Yazarian home system than me. I'd offer a few suggestions -- all non-canon of course. I've had the idea -- an idea spurred by Jedion's "Very Yazarian Civil War" project -- that there was a prophet who gave the Yazarians the idea to look toward the direction of the Frontier when they needed to evacuate their home world. I wrote this for my incomplete Yazarian timeline: ? PF. The Prophesy of Grandee the Blind of Clan Nistaria. Although she was not from Clan Anglann, Grandee the Blind was a revere seer whose many predictions are said to have come true, though others later would claim she made predictions that they made up. One of her well documented prognostications though was that one day the Yazarians would meet a “nearly hairless race of outworlders who were Yazarian but not Yazarian.” The nearly hairless race could either become great friends of the Yazarians or their worst enemy. The choice belonged to the children of Waloo. Waloo is one of the other fan-created names for the Yazarian home world. Perhaps we could use it as an alternative name, much like Earth can be called Terra or Gaea, etc. Anyway, that's my half-baked two cents for now. Joe Cabadas |
jedion357 October 28, 2016 - 2:53pm | How far out is Ya Ziri from Araks? Where there other systems charted before Araks? Did the Yazirians only jump toward the Frontier? rifting on the small ships packed like submarines with crew and supplies. What if in the desperate rush to build those ships and send them out to save their race they took a page from the Imperial Japanese and the Kamikazi? that these ships might not have had the supplies of fuel to land on planets so they had a lander that one or two yazirians would parachute to the surface of the planet with, perform essential scientific test and report to the ship as it waited in orbit. This was in essence a sucide mission. Its a desperate measure and the warrior scientist that volunteered are viewed with awe. The planet and or system they gave their lives in are named for them. (if two crew in the lander then star and planet take their names) if only one crew in lander than just the planet takes the name, and the star is named by the standard convention of the yazirian explorers of that time). The vollunteers of these lander missions are nuturally heroes and revered by all yaziirian so one extent or another. There would be songs sung of them perhaps a saga written about all of them together providing their "mother" ship returned to report their stories. I like the idea of the home system being multiple jumps 3-4 and over 20 LY from Araks. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
Putraack November 18, 2016 - 8:28pm | Wow, that's kinda some deep definition of Yazirian ethics. |
JCab747 November 19, 2016 - 8:04am | Wow, that's kinda some deep definition of Yazirian ethics. Yes, it provides a different perspective on their code of honor. I like the idea of them not seeming as technologically advanced as they leave their homeworld for the Frontier, otherwise, they might have overwhelmed the other Core Three races. Joe Cabadas |
jedion357 November 19, 2016 - 12:46pm | I like the idea of Gandee the Blind and rifting off that I would like to suggest changing the name to something that sounds like Nostrodamus seeing as haw his stuff is twisted every 5 years to fit the current whatever going down its a very recognizable name and something like Nadae of Damus Clan the Blind Seer of the Star Exodus would instantly click with players hearing that she made all these prognostications/ prophesies centuries earlier which are in written in Angledoc Pantameter (five line song structure and meant to be chanted) Everything from the star exodus, to the rise of the family of one, to the encountering of the hairless yazirian, to the war with the sathar to the assassination of the first yazirian elected president of the Council of Worlds. are said to be in the writings of Nadea of Damus. One dralasite Mol/comedian has even claimed that the recipe for Ool soup can be found in the writings. Fo1 is not too sweet on the writings of Nadae of Damus as the interpretation is usually up for grabs and in the modern frontier many see negative things about the Fo1 in these writings. However they predate Fo1 and are greatly revered on most yazirian colonies with the exception of Araks. Posession of a copy on Araks while not illegal will draw suspicion. EDIT: some even claim there is a code in the writings, if arranged in their original format and a complicated letter numbering system is employed almost anything can be found in them to promote any conspiracy theory. Some have even used the Pan Gal translation and a letter numbering system to locate secret messages in the Prophesies of Nadae of Damus which is completely illogical but hey many beings will believe anything. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |