Merging Fighters, Torpedoes and Seeker Missiles

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Malcadon
May 16, 2013 - 12:18am
I was thinking about the use of unmanned Fighters in the game. The logic is that a living pilot is a liability on a Fighter, as one would take too much space with a cockpit and life-support systems, the inability to deal with high-Gs, and it is a highly expendable position to begin with. So my idea is to mount a (level 3-5) robot in place of a pilot, and replace all that cockpit area with a nuclear bomb! Basically, this system would be an automated attack drone with self-destructive capability.

The Drone Fighter is deployed from a ship, where it has a MR & ADF of 5 each, and cannot be launched defensively (MPO, LTD). It can be set to target a ship with a list of other ships to target, in case the first one is destroyed, but higher Robot Levels would allow it to change targets freely. It will move at full-speed towards the target ship, but its top speed maybe lowered or capped so it won't fly off the map. Such commands are usually issued by its host ship before deployment, as it is more secure then remote-control. They are treated as missiles with regards to anti-missile systems (like ICMs), and can be shot at as a normal Fighter craft, but with 5 HP (it dose not need as much shielding). They fire Assault Rockets as a level 1 Gunner for Robot Level 3, plus 1 level of Gunner per additional Robot Level. Each rocket can be used to target an enemy ship for added firepower, or to clear an incoming ICM (to clear its way to the target ship). Drone Fighter may return for rearming (ideal, if you don't want to waste a good drone on a weak ship) or fly kamikaze-style into an enemy ship. A kamikaze Drone Fighter will hit a ship with a 75% chance to hit (+5 for each Robot level over 3; +15 vs Stasis Screen; -10 each ICM), and will do 5d10 damage, with a -20 modifier to the Ship Damage Table.

Given the time and energy, I would redo the whole weapon systems from the ground-up... Hell, I would redo the broken Knight Hawks rules, if I used it all that much! This not likely something I would implement anytime soon for proper play-testing, so if anyone is interested, then by all means, use and/or rearrange it as you see fit.
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OnceFarOff
May 16, 2013 - 6:11am
Great idea. I mean if the US government is using drones to catch guys for cattle theft in 2013, why can't the frontier have some kind of drone? 

Perhaps an IFF program would have to be included in the robotic pilot's programming.

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Shadow Shack
May 16, 2013 - 3:39pm
Check out the Mechanon fighter in my Liberation of Volturnus game in the recent SFman.
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rattraveller
May 16, 2013 - 4:29pm
Article today on a full size drone being launched from the USS George H.W. Bush. Was specially designed for aircraft carrier operations. Look it up for some real life ideas.
Sounds like a great job but where did you say we had to go?

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jedion357
May 16, 2013 - 5:48pm
rattraveller wrote:
Article today on a full size drone being launched from the USS George H.W. Bush. Was specially designed for aircraft carrier operations. Look it up for some real life ideas.


Alright, call me dense but I didn't know they named ships after people who were still living? Putting that aside I like the bit about its call sign being Avenger-thats kind of cool- idea stollen.
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Shadow Shack
May 16, 2013 - 7:21pm
I'm guessing that prior to budget cuts there was a luxury of building ships fater than Presidents could die. Granted the budget cut can be a double edged blessing, considering there haven't been any decent Presidents worthy of naming a naval ship after since Reagan...
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Malcadon
May 17, 2013 - 1:42am
Try Kennedy... Cool

I used to think that ship names applied like coins and postage stamps, until the USS George H.W. Bush (although, I later found out that the USS Carl Vinson and USS Ronald Reagan where christened a few years before their respective namesakes died). For some reason, I don't like the idea of naming ships after living people. I find it somewhat poetic that something of significance should happen posthumously.

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Putraack
May 17, 2013 - 11:07am
I think that it's an old sailor superstition that it's bad luck to name a ship after someone living. If they die while the ship's at sea, the evil spirits might get confused and grab the ship, too.

I suspect politics trumps superstition & tradition anymore. FWIW, Jimmy Carter has a missile submarine named for him, since he was once a nuke sailor.

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rattraveller
May 17, 2013 - 2:31pm
Since that President was a Veteran Combat Naval Aviator I believe they decided to honor someone who served along with being President.
Sounds like a great job but where did you say we had to go?

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Shadow Shack
May 17, 2013 - 4:22pm
Presenting the USS Barrack Obama

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Malcadon
May 17, 2013 - 8:51pm
You forgot the USS Bill Clinton (note: thats not fog!):

With Clinton-approved uniform:

And the USS George W. Bush (just after christening):

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Ascent
May 19, 2013 - 5:22am
Malcadon wrote:
You forgot the USS Bill Clinton (note: thats not fog!):
With Clinton-approved uniform:

That would be awesome, except for the fact that women aren't permitted to serve on sea vessels, which leaves one to ponder over "Clinton's navy" and the "don't ask, don't tell" policy. <shivers /> Tongue out
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rattraveller
May 20, 2013 - 2:25pm

Ah Ascent have you never watched NCIS? Female sailors have been on sea going vessels for like decades. They have also be slowly moving on to the combat vessels in more recent years.

http://www.msc.navy.mil/sealift/2003/December/women.htm

Oh and this year female soldiers have been given permission to join Infantry units. We expect the first trainees at Fort Benning in the next year.

Sounds like a great job but where did you say we had to go?

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jedion357
May 20, 2013 - 6:34pm
rattraveller wrote:

Ah Ascent have you never watched NCIS? Female sailors have been on sea going vessels for like decades. They have also be slowly moving on to the combat vessels in more recent years.

http://www.msc.navy.mil/sealift/2003/December/women.htm

Oh and this year female soldiers have been given permission to join Infantry units. We expect the first trainees at Fort Benning in the next year.



the PBS documentary on US air craft carriers made it clear that women were on the carrier.
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Ascent
May 21, 2013 - 9:34pm
Wow. I guess I'm a little behind on that. I knew everything else. Just not the sea vessels. Well, then, so much for my joke. :P
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Malcadon
May 22, 2013 - 2:13am
Well, if it makes your feel better, I cant even remember the topic of this post, or who even made it in the first place, and I made it! Hell, I don't think anyone remembers anymore? Tongue out

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Ascent
May 23, 2013 - 8:11am
Presenting the U.S.S. George W. Bush II:

The George W. Bush Naval Cruiser

0-10 knots in 62.1 seconds. When motoring, reportedly sputters "misunderstimated-misunderestimated-misunderestimated".

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Shadow Shack
May 23, 2013 - 3:40pm
The USS Barack "You didn't build that, I did" Obama:

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Ascent
May 23, 2013 - 7:39pm
Oh, now you're just making stuff up. ;P
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