Karxan September 24, 2012 - 8:05pm | I don't know if anyone has discussed this before. I was thinking of current holidays that are on our countries calendars (there are a lot). What holidays would the Frontier have and would they have a unifying calendar from each of the different races? I know there is the the "Grand Celebration" at 111FY in the Zeb's Guide, but what else? I was thinking the Family of ONE probably has some type of Remembrance holiday for the original homeworld of the yazirian race. Vrusk I would think would have some type of holiday for when they left their past wars and such and embrace the corporate way. Do dralasite's actually have a holiday or do they make fun of the other races and enjoy those with them? A lot of holidays are of a religious background, but there are many national ones too. We celebrate Independence day across the globe in many countries, so there are universal holidays even if the event is not related. IIRC they used to celebrate the ending of WWI and WWII in some way, maybe the UPF celebrates the end/victory of SW1 and SW2. Any thoughts? |
TerlObar September 24, 2012 - 8:13pm | Founding Day - The day the UPF charter was signed and ratified. This would be a Frontier wide holiday. Each world may also have a local holiday related to the day that the charter was accepted on their world. Something akin to our memorial and veterans days to celebrate and remember those who died in the first and second sathar wars. As you mentioned, days celebrating the ending of the first and second sathar wars. Although since there is no peace treaty to mark the end of the wars, the exact date could be kind of nebulous. Maybe set as the last day of hostilites when the last sathar were defeated. Those are the ones that come immediately to mind. Ad Astra Per Ardua! My blog - Expanding Frontier Webmaster - The Star Frontiers Network & this site Founding Editor - The Frontier Explorer Magazine Managing Editor - The Star Frontiersman Magazine |
Karxan September 24, 2012 - 8:19pm | OK w00t, we can include robotic holidays too. |
Karxan September 24, 2012 - 8:21pm | I forgot to post this link, Refer to: Applicability of the Frontier Calendar It is from 2007, but it is a short discussion along this same topic. |
w00t (not verified) September 24, 2012 - 8:38pm |
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OnceFarOff September 24, 2012 - 8:51pm | Founding Day - The day the UPF charter was signed and ratified. This would be a Frontier wide holiday. Each world may also have a local holiday related to the day that the charter was accepted on their world. I was going to say this as well. This would be a big one. There's going to be a major terrorist attack by the Free Frontiersman Foundation in my campaign on Founders Day. |
jedion357 September 24, 2012 - 8:59pm | Does every government on Earth have a Labor Day? Certainly the Frontier could use labor days because of the presence of mega corps but no doubt the mega corps would just laugh at that. Holidays often happen because of universal cultural experiences- a civil war leads to a Memorial Day largely because of the shock to the culture over huge numbers of causualties and a lack or organized way to identify bodies and properly care for them. These seem logical for the Frontier Victory over Sathar (SW1) Founder Day Contact Day originally the day that the dralasites and the vrusk made contact with humanity but now the day covers all first contacts - a celebration of cultural exchange Pale and Laco might celebrate Liberation Day to commemorate the defeat of the sathar on those planets during SW1 Most holidays among yazirians are clan affairs but the Star Exodus is a significant universal cultural event that would demand a commemoration of some sort A dralasite holiday would be the dralasite version of the 4th of July which would be celebrated by hosting the "great circle of debate" by many stoa coming together in various places I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
Karxan September 24, 2012 - 10:17pm | Jedion, Contact day sounds like a good one. The Frontier could celebrate it by having a dinner with at least one dish from each race at the table. Of course as more races are found and enter the UPF, there will be more dishes to be served and created. The vrusk could start their own corporate catering business. I do like the idea of a Space/Land Fleet Vetran's day. Being a vetran myself, I have always liked this holiday. What about Admiral Morgaine's birthday or day of his death? He is the most significant named character from the cannon stuff. There is a world named after him after all. That would be a Frontier wide holiday. |
jedion357 September 25, 2012 - 5:30am | Corporate Holidays: depend largely on the ego of the CEO. The holiday could be Incorporation Day or the Birthday of the CEO but the workerbees better not expect a day off or qnything like that. The practice of Incorporation Day comes from the vrusk. Many vrusk trqde houses observe a celebration that translates into Pangal as Incorporation Day to mark the founding of the company. Its largely a day off unless the company business requires otherwise- ie security guards etc. Its marked by the observance or vrusk tai chi a loose business meeting where a report of the past year's business and projected plan for the next year. Some trade houses actually hold this at 3 or 5 year intervals. A light catered brunch is also offered. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
OnceFarOff September 25, 2012 - 6:34am | Corporate Holidays: depend largely on the ego of the CEO. The holiday could be Incorporation Day or the Birthday of the CEO but the workerbees better not expect a day off or qnything like that. The practice of Incorporation Day comes from the vrusk. Many vrusk trqde houses observe a celebration that translates into Pangal as Incorporation Day to mark the founding of the company. Its largely a day off unless the company business requires otherwise- ie security guards etc. Its marked by the observance or vrusk tai chi a loose business meeting where a report of the past year's business and projected plan for the next year. Some trade houses actually hold this at 3 or 5 year intervals. A light catered brunch is also offered. Nice. On CorpCo in the New Streel system, they have all kinds of festivities and field games where they re-enact butchering local populations to secure mining rights. Fun for the whole family... |
rattraveller September 28, 2012 - 5:32pm | My thinking is that since most of the planets are dominated by just one race then the holidays for that race would be the ones celebrated. Humans would go with a wide variety. Yazirians would be more Clan based. Dralasites would probably go for major debate settlement days and like 10 April Fools Days Vrusk do not have holidays. Get back to work you slackers. Sounds like a great job but where did you say we had to go? |
Karxan October 1, 2012 - 8:35pm | Is the vrusk Labor Day one of Thanks for being an employee and now we have upped your work load by 10% to meet the next years quota's. |
rattraveller October 2, 2012 - 3:57am | I always thought the Vrusk society was based on American interpretation of the Japanese business philosophy of the 1980's. Not the entire Japanese culture just the ultra business part of it. Those of that remember how all the cool parents were teaching there kids Japanese because they were the next big thing and taking over the world. Like the Oil Barrens of the Arab world were in the 70s, the US as the only superpower left in the 90s and the Chinese are today. Wonder who is next to take over the world. Personally I think it is Woot and his robots. Sounds like a great job but where did you say we had to go? |
jedion357 October 2, 2012 - 5:11am | Wonder who is next to take over the world. Personally I think it is Woot and his robots. I think I'll pass on that. Wasn't there a propaganda movie about this? Wallie? or something like that. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
Karxan October 8, 2012 - 12:32am | where do you think the Droid software comes from, w00t INC of course. But he will rust and fade like all things. |
rattraveller October 8, 2012 - 6:49am | Rust may not be the correct term. Rust is the oxidation of ferrous metal. Corrosion is the oxidation of everything else. So I see Woot corroding in the next twenty years. Sounds like a great job but where did you say we had to go? |
w00t (not verified) October 8, 2012 - 6:39pm | w00t is getting an upgrade to, Plas-Tic! Kinda funny seeing that the next issue of SFman will feature a robot building system. I should rename the article from Robotic-Tech to w00t-Tech. Good idea? Bad idea? Rat, you and me brother. Stainless and Plastic. |
rattraveller October 9, 2012 - 6:00pm | I'm with you Sounds like a great job but where did you say we had to go? |
iggy October 10, 2012 - 6:28am | So on Mechan they celebrate Plas-Tic day and everyone gets a free Plas-Tic mask to wear in the festivities. -iggy |
rattraveller October 10, 2012 - 5:27pm | Back on track let's go with a theme for some American holidays and how they could apply to our game. With the upcoming holiday we were discussing at work how Halloween, Christmas and Easter and do not truly belong to the current groups but all started as Pagan holy days: Samhain, Yule and Ostara respectively and how they were taken over and how each has slowly changed over the centuries. This also brought up the more current adopted holiday (at least in America) of Cinco de Mayo which seems to be celebrated more as Drinko de Mayo. And let us not forget the pseudo-holiday know the world over as Superbowl Sunday and its follower Recovery Monday. So this brings up what holidays the four races would "borrow" from each other and how they might change the way it is celebrated. Let's say the Yazirians have the special day when the time is right for hunting to begin. All the hunters gather the night before to prepare and to present those young ones who are going on their first hunt. This was traditionally celebrated with the last of the previous years hunt and ritual body and glide wing painting. The modern version is more of a coming out ceremony for young Yazirians and the "hunt" has been replaced by a search for treat bags hidden in the tree tops. How do you think the other races would adopt this holiday either traditional or modern? Sounds like a great job but where did you say we had to go? |
w00t (not verified) October 10, 2012 - 6:21pm |
How do you think the other races would adopt this holiday either traditional or modern? Yazirians would party their fur off! Anything to toss the grog and ponjo around. :-) |
iggy October 10, 2012 - 6:27pm | Sounds like an enterprising Yazirian adopted part of a human holiday. -iggy |
jedion357 October 10, 2012 - 7:35pm | I think many of the colonies would celebrate a Founder's Day treats in a tree- thats for the Fo1 which in its efforts to control its society doesn't approve of weapons in private hands thus doesn't see the need for a hunter's holiday but on Athor you can believe their will be bloodshed on this holiday. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
w00t (not verified) October 10, 2012 - 8:09pm | treats in a tree- thats for the Fo1 which in its efforts to control its society doesn't approve of weapons in private hands thus doesn't see the need for a hunter's holiday but on Athor you can believe their will be bloodshed on this holiday. I've heard there is much debate on the shedding of blood. True yaz feel the blood must come from a hunt animal while civilized yaz believe the animals should be purchased from farms (only barbarians still hunt animals). Other groups outside the clan-society want to see all bloodshed stopped. Some say, at any cost. |
jedion357 October 11, 2012 - 4:30am | I've heard there is much debate on the shedding of blood. True yaz feel the blood must come from a hunt animal while civilized yaz believe the animals should be purchased from farms (only barbarians still hunt animals). Other groups outside the clan-society want to see all bloodshed stopped. Some say, at any cost. This sounds like human society dressed in a rubber suite on a cheap sci-fi TV set. Lets be honest hunting in human society has not had this idea of it being bad but only for the past century. With the yazirian hunting is so close to past cultural identity, and on certian worlds it is still close to present cultural identity that you're just not going to get this liberal human krik crap about hunting. In a modern space aged society of yazirians, yes there will be some fall off of the enthusiam for hunting but you are just not going to get this. Now will there be some adaption, yeah. I'm betting the entertainment library on a ship with a yazirian crew has a program like "Big Game Hunting" and that yazirian game designers and computer geeks writing code for this kind of game endeavor to make it as immersive as possible. That said designers probably had to go on company trips to hunt on a long week end and get ideas for the games they were writing even if they hadn't hunted since the day they made their first kill and were pronounce an adult. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
rattraveller October 11, 2012 - 2:38pm | SOOOOO where would the Dralasites hide the bags of treats? Or Humans Or Vrusk Or Mechanons Sounds like a great job but where did you say we had to go? |
jedion357 September 19, 2017 - 1:12pm | Necro Posting here and not sure if this idea is covered just need to record it somewhere while doing other things Pan Galactic Day- either the first or last day of the GST callendar because of PGC's role in establishing GST time & callendar I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
jedion357 October 30, 2017 - 9:18am | On Osak they have a Pagent of Religion which is a parade involving strange dress and costumes that celebrates every known religion out there sometimes a religion is only represented by its sole osakar adherent. sort of a Carnival meets eccumentical council I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
iggy October 30, 2017 - 11:09am | Ancient Yazira had a celebration of the ancestral dead where the clans would take the young out to the burial trees and grounds and visit the graves. The elders of the clan would tell the stories of the ancestors and the entire clan would spend the night at the graves celebrating and honoring the dead. Some would even use the event to speak to the dead. Food offerings are placed with each honored grave with the older children cooking and preparing the meals for the ancestors they have spent the past year learning about. The sweatest meats and most special or rare dishes are prepared. Then during the morning feast the younger children (climbers and hangers) are allowed to gather the food in and get first choice of what they want to eat. This is viewed as the ancestors giving gifts to the newest generation. The climbers and hangers bring their selected gift to the elders at the feast. The elders then tell a short story about the ancestor before the youngster eats and then passes the food among the rest of the clan. Typically elder women tell the stories of the ancestral women and elder men tell the stories of ancestral men. Occasionally gifts of tools, weapons, or even toys are included with the food offerings and are made by parents and elders in the clan. However the Family Of One strongly discourages nonfood offerings as a pollution of the true ancient traditions. Most colonies free from the Family Of One influence point to nonfood gifts recorded in antiquity and use physical gifts as a way of expressing their freedom and prosperity since the exodus. Even on Hentz this is a silent practice of dissent though many fewer physical gifts are given. This holiday is most commonly called Ancestors Eve and is held on the longest night of the year to give the ancestors the longest time for the feast and celebrates the nocturnal lives of the most ancient ancestors. -iggy |
jedion357 October 30, 2017 - 9:29pm | Occasionally gifts of tools, weapons, or even toys are included with the food offerings and are made by parents and elders in the clan. However the Family Of One strongly discourages nonfood offerings as a pollution of the true ancient traditions. Most colonies free from the Family Of One influence point to nonfood gifts recorded in antiquity and use physical gifts as a way of expressing their freedom and prosperity since the exodus. Even on Hentz this is a silent practice of dissent though many fewer physical gifts are given. This holiday is most commonly called Ancestors Eve and is held on the longest night of the year to give the ancestors the longest time for the feast and celebrates the nocturnal lives of the most ancient ancestors. Good stuff Iggy I actually just submitted material on holidays but I might have to modify it to include this and take my name of the submission as author. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |