Lets Coin A Word

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jedion357
October 22, 2011 - 7:01am
When referencing things to do with the sea we use the word maritime: particularly in conjunction with tradition, academy, etc. Is there a similar word form referencing things to do with space? If so please help me to expand my vocabulary. But if not lets coin one. Two possible words come to mind: astrotime or cosmotime. Opinions?
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w00t (not verified)
October 22, 2011 - 12:57pm
  • A sea has a well defined border, space does not unless you say that 1 light-year around a star is consider the border. Maybe? 
  • Space is open, free, available and for the most part unoccupied. 
  • Could use maritime in space, everyone knows the reference, NASA and movies use it. Just a thought. 
Here's how I would define a new term;
astrotime - relating to or involving spaceships or systemships or navigation or spacers; "navigation charts"; "maritime law"

thefreedictonary.com
maritime - relating to or involving ships or shipping or navigation or seamen; "nautical charts"; "maritime law"; "marine insurance"

Space is An Ocean
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SpaceIsAnOcean

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AZ_GAMER
October 22, 2011 - 1:33pm
astrotime is catchy

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Shadow Shack
October 22, 2011 - 3:41pm
How about something more game specific, like Frontiertime? Nickmname it " 'tiertime ".

Or we could just call it "spacey".
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jedion357
October 22, 2011 - 5:33pm
No one likes Cosmotime? in therory it encompasses more than astro which would only refer to stars where as using cosmos as a root it encompasses more.

Is 'time' even a proper root word?
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iggy
October 22, 2011 - 9:06pm
I would substitute spacefaring law for maritime law. I don't feel comfortable wit spacetime.  It is too entrenched in relativity physics speak.  I'll noodle on this one.
-iggy

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w00t (not verified)
October 22, 2011 - 9:15pm
astrotime - relating to or involving spaceships or systemships or navigation or spacers; "navigation charts"; "spacefaring law".

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w00t (not verified)
October 26, 2011 - 11:19am
What about terms like "onshore" and "offshore"?

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jedion357
October 26, 2011 - 11:31am
w00t wrote:
What about terms like "onshore" and "offshore"?


on planet and orbit
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w00t (not verified)
October 26, 2011 - 12:12pm
  • onplanet - On the planet or in it's atmosphere.
  • offplanet - Off the planet (could be the same as offorbit?).
  • inorbit - In orbit around the planet or one of its moons.
  • offorbit - Not in orbit, but still in the system.
  • insystem - Within the farthest boundry of a system (pluto or kuiper belt?).
  • outsystem - Between star systems.

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jedion357
October 26, 2011 - 1:47pm
I would say that In system refers to stuff in the inner system and out system refers to stuff in the outer system; pretty sure that I've seen them used that way before.
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Shadow Shack
October 26, 2011 - 1:50pm
My interpretation as well. It would seem to me that if you're past the outer orbit/boundaries, you're either in the void or you're seriously lost...
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Inigo Montoya
October 26, 2011 - 2:40pm
I'm partial to "planet side" being used for the concept of shore leave.

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w00t (not verified)
October 26, 2011 - 3:39pm
jedion357 wrote:
I would say that In system refers to stuff in the inner system and out system refers to stuff in the outer system; pretty sure that I've seen them used that way before.
Where is the boundary line?

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jedion357
October 26, 2011 - 3:43pm
w00t wrote:
jedion357 wrote:
I would say that In system refers to stuff in the inner system and out system refers to stuff in the outer system; pretty sure that I've seen them used that way before.
Where is the boundary line?


I think that inner system in our system would be inside the asteroid belt.
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w00t (not verified)
October 26, 2011 - 3:54pm
OK. If were going to offer terms, we should try to define them. I'll give it a shot.

Inner system - the portion of space between the home star and one-half it's outermost major celestial object. Outer system is the other half. 

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Ascent
October 28, 2011 - 6:45pm
Man, you all and your reinventing the wheel. There are established terms for some of this stuff:

Planetside
Offworld or extraterrestrial (as in from offworld)
Orbiting
Extraorbital
In-system
Extrasystem


"Maritime" means "while at sea". It applies to a nation's ships while they are at sea, regardless of the area of the universe they are in. Even if they are not in the Frontier, they are still subject to their homeworld's laws regarding space travel. So "cosmotime" would be more appropriate. "Cosmotime law" seems fine to me.

I would imagine that they would judge the border of a system based upon its strong gravitational pull region, meaning the area in which its sun can hold objects of any size within its gravity well plus the distance of the furtherest planet's gravity well. This would likely be the equivalent to the theorized Kuiper belt.

Cute adjustment to your avatar, w00t.
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w00t (not verified)
October 28, 2011 - 12:15pm
ylymv - your light-year may vary


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Arclight
October 28, 2011 - 5:18pm
And, the Ever Popular Ad Astra! (to the Stars!)
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Arclight
October 28, 2011 - 5:19pm
Inigo Montoya wrote:
I'm partial to "planet side" being used for the concept of shore leave.
some of the SciFi novels I've read refer to it as 'dirt-side', but it too is correct...
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Ascent
October 28, 2011 - 6:40pm
"Dirtside" is more gruff, interchangeable in Space or Sea lingo. "Planetside" sounds more SF. Maybe "dirtside" could be used by hard-bitten characters and NPC's and "planetside" by more noble characers and NPC's.
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jedion357
October 29, 2011 - 6:58am
Dirt side is also the name of GZG's sci fi ground combat miniatures game. I think its intended to be a gruff soldier's reference to a theater of operation. Related: terns ground pounders, vacuum suckers,
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iggy
October 29, 2011 - 4:30pm
I think there is a distinction between inner-system and in-system as well as outer-system and out-system.
Inner-system is everything from the habitable zone to the star.
Outer-system is from the far edge of the habitable zone to the end of the system.
In-system means being with in a system (inner or outer).
Out-system means being outside the system, in interstellar space or another system.
-iggy

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Shadow Shack
October 29, 2011 - 5:45pm
iggy wrote:
Inner-system is everything from the habitable zone to the star.
Outer-system is from the far edge of the habitable zone to the end of the system.

Which begs three questions...

1> Where is the "end" of the system?
2> What if the last orbit is the habitable planet...or there's only one planet in the system?
3> What if there are no habitable worlds?
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Ascent
October 29, 2011 - 7:08pm
To quote myself from above:

Ascent wrote:
I would imagine that they would judge the border of a system based upon its strong gravitational pull region, meaning the area in which its sun can hold objects of any size within its gravity well plus the distance of the furtherest planet's gravity well. This would likely be the equivalent to the theorized Kuiper belt.
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iggy
November 5, 2011 - 11:08am
Shadow Shack wrote:
iggy wrote:
Inner-system is everything from the habitable zone to the star.
Outer-system is from the far edge of the habitable zone to the end of the system.

Which begs three questions...

1> Where is the "end" of the system?
2> What if the last orbit is the habitable planet...or there's only one planet in the system?
3> What if there are no habitable worlds?

The habitable zone is calculated by star mass and temperature.  There may not be any planets in the habitable zone or they may all be unsuitable for habitation.  But all stars have a habitable zone, the smaller the star the closer it is to the star, the larger the star the further out it extends.  Can people live on planets out side of the habitable zone?  Yes, but these are not earth-like planets, or they have some extra effect keeping them warm enough.  A large Jovian parent reflecting heat on them, a very active core producing internal heat, some other unknown piece of science we have not learned yet.  The habitable zone is just a nice calculable distance the scientists can agree upon.  This allows for a star with nothing orbiting it to still have an inner-system and outer-system.

Now what counts as the end of the system is harder.  We Earthlings don't know enough to recommend that demarcation yet.  I would say that it is the point where the stars gravity reaches the minimum effect on objects orbiting it.  Or maybe it is related to the minimum effect on jump velocity.
-iggy