jedion357 October 22, 2011 - 7:01am | When referencing things to do with the sea we use the word maritime: particularly in conjunction with tradition, academy, etc. Is there a similar word form referencing things to do with space? If so please help me to expand my vocabulary. But if not lets coin one. Two possible words come to mind: astrotime or cosmotime. Opinions? I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
w00t (not verified) October 22, 2011 - 12:57pm |
astrotime - relating to or involving spaceships or systemships or navigation or spacers; "navigation charts"; "maritime law" thefreedictonary.com maritime - relating to or involving ships or shipping or navigation or seamen; "nautical charts"; "maritime law"; "marine insurance" Space is An Ocean http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SpaceIsAnOcean |
Shadow Shack October 22, 2011 - 3:41pm | How about something more game specific, like Frontiertime? Nickmname it " 'tiertime ". |
jedion357 October 22, 2011 - 5:33pm | No one likes Cosmotime? in therory it encompasses more than astro which would only refer to stars where as using cosmos as a root it encompasses more. Is 'time' even a proper root word? I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
iggy October 22, 2011 - 9:06pm | I would substitute spacefaring law for maritime law. I don't feel comfortable wit spacetime. It is too entrenched in relativity physics speak. I'll noodle on this one. -iggy |
w00t (not verified) October 22, 2011 - 9:15pm | astrotime - relating to or involving spaceships or systemships or navigation or spacers; "navigation charts"; "spacefaring law". |
w00t (not verified) October 26, 2011 - 11:19am | What about terms like "onshore" and "offshore"? |
jedion357 October 26, 2011 - 11:31am | What about terms like "onshore" and "offshore"? on planet and orbit I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
w00t (not verified) October 26, 2011 - 12:12pm |
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jedion357 October 26, 2011 - 1:47pm | I would say that In system refers to stuff in the inner system and out system refers to stuff in the outer system; pretty sure that I've seen them used that way before. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
Shadow Shack October 26, 2011 - 1:50pm | My interpretation as well. It would seem to me that if you're past the outer orbit/boundaries, you're either in the void or you're seriously lost... |
Inigo Montoya October 26, 2011 - 2:40pm | I'm partial to "planet side" being used for the concept of shore leave. |
w00t (not verified) October 26, 2011 - 3:39pm | Where is the boundary line? I would say that In system refers to stuff in the inner system and out system refers to stuff in the outer system; pretty sure that I've seen them used that way before. |
jedion357 October 26, 2011 - 3:43pm | Where is the boundary line? I would say that In system refers to stuff in the inner system and out system refers to stuff in the outer system; pretty sure that I've seen them used that way before. I think that inner system in our system would be inside the asteroid belt. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
w00t (not verified) October 26, 2011 - 3:54pm | OK. If were going to offer terms, we should try to define them. I'll give it a shot. Inner system - the portion of space between the home star and one-half it's outermost major celestial object. Outer system is the other half. |
Ascent October 28, 2011 - 6:45pm | Man, you all and your reinventing the wheel. There are established terms for some of this stuff: Offworld or extraterrestrial (as in from offworld) Orbiting Extraorbital In-system Extrasystem "Maritime" means "while at sea". It applies to a nation's ships while they are at sea, regardless of the area of the universe they are in. Even if they are not in the Frontier, they are still subject to their homeworld's laws regarding space travel. So "cosmotime" would be more appropriate. "Cosmotime law" seems fine to me. I would imagine that they would judge the border of a system based upon its strong gravitational pull region, meaning the area in which its sun can hold objects of any size within its gravity well plus the distance of the furtherest planet's gravity well. This would likely be the equivalent to the theorized Kuiper belt. Cute adjustment to your avatar, w00t. View my profile for a list of articles I have written, am writing, will write. "It's yo' mama!" —Wicket W. Warrick, Star Wars Ep. VI: Return of the Jedi "That guy's wise." —Logray, Star Wars Ep.VI: Return of the Jedi Do You Wanna Date My Avatar? - Felicia Day (The Guild) |
w00t (not verified) October 28, 2011 - 12:15pm | ylymv - your light-year may vary |
Arclight October 28, 2011 - 5:18pm | And, the Ever Popular Ad Astra! (to the Stars!) "If we knew what we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?" -A Einstein |
Arclight October 28, 2011 - 5:19pm | some of the SciFi novels I've read refer to it as 'dirt-side', but it too is correct... I'm partial to "planet side" being used for the concept of shore leave. "If we knew what we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?" -A Einstein |
Ascent October 28, 2011 - 6:40pm | "Dirtside" is more gruff, interchangeable in Space or Sea lingo. "Planetside" sounds more SF. Maybe "dirtside" could be used by hard-bitten characters and NPC's and "planetside" by more noble characers and NPC's. View my profile for a list of articles I have written, am writing, will write. "It's yo' mama!" —Wicket W. Warrick, Star Wars Ep. VI: Return of the Jedi "That guy's wise." —Logray, Star Wars Ep.VI: Return of the Jedi Do You Wanna Date My Avatar? - Felicia Day (The Guild) |
jedion357 October 29, 2011 - 6:58am | Dirt side is also the name of GZG's sci fi ground combat miniatures game. I think its intended to be a gruff soldier's reference to a theater of operation. Related: terns ground pounders, vacuum suckers, I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
iggy October 29, 2011 - 4:30pm | I think there is a distinction between inner-system and in-system as well as outer-system and out-system. Inner-system is everything from the habitable zone to the star. Outer-system is from the far edge of the habitable zone to the end of the system. In-system means being with in a system (inner or outer). Out-system means being outside the system, in interstellar space or another system. -iggy |
Shadow Shack October 29, 2011 - 5:45pm | Outer-system is from the far edge of the habitable zone to the end of the system. Which begs three questions... 1> Where is the "end" of the system? 2> What if the last orbit is the habitable planet...or there's only one planet in the system? 3> What if there are no habitable worlds? |
Ascent October 29, 2011 - 7:08pm | To quote myself from above:
I would imagine that they would judge the border of a system based upon its strong gravitational pull region, meaning the area in which its sun can hold objects of any size within its gravity well plus the distance of the furtherest planet's gravity well. This would likely be the equivalent to the theorized Kuiper belt. View my profile for a list of articles I have written, am writing, will write. "It's yo' mama!" —Wicket W. Warrick, Star Wars Ep. VI: Return of the Jedi "That guy's wise." —Logray, Star Wars Ep.VI: Return of the Jedi Do You Wanna Date My Avatar? - Felicia Day (The Guild) |
iggy November 5, 2011 - 11:08am | Outer-system is from the far edge of the habitable zone to the end of the system. Which begs three questions... 1> Where is the "end" of the system? 2> What if the last orbit is the habitable planet...or there's only one planet in the system? 3> What if there are no habitable worlds? The habitable zone is calculated by star mass and temperature. There may not be any planets in the habitable zone or they may all be unsuitable for habitation. But all stars have a habitable zone, the smaller the star the closer it is to the star, the larger the star the further out it extends. Can people live on planets out side of the habitable zone? Yes, but these are not earth-like planets, or they have some extra effect keeping them warm enough. A large Jovian parent reflecting heat on them, a very active core producing internal heat, some other unknown piece of science we have not learned yet. The habitable zone is just a nice calculable distance the scientists can agree upon. This allows for a star with nothing orbiting it to still have an inner-system and outer-system. Now what counts as the end of the system is harder. We Earthlings don't know enough to recommend that demarcation yet. I would say that it is the point where the stars gravity reaches the minimum effect on objects orbiting it. Or maybe it is related to the minimum effect on jump velocity. -iggy |