 September 18, 2011 - 1:33pm | A recent post got me thinking about time dilation. What would be the time and the time dilation when increasing to Light Speed at ADF 1? And what would be the difference in total time with dilation between that and ADF 6? What would be the time passed for the galaxy and what would be the time passed for those on board the ship? View my profile for a list of articles I have written, am writing, will write. "It's yo' mama!" —Wicket W. Warrick, Star Wars Ep. VI: Return of the Jedi "That guy's wise." —Logray, Star Wars Ep.VI: Return of the Jedi Do You Wanna Date My Avatar? - Felicia Day (The Guild) |
 September 18, 2011 - 4:10pm | Without any attempts at scientific explanation (which I'd have a difficult time gathering/explaining anyways), it really wouldn't make any difference what your acceleration rate is when entering the void. In other words, if you're coasting along at (Void Speed minus 1ADF) it doesn't matter if you accelerate at ADF:1 or ADF:100, one you hit Void Speed you enter the Void. Traveling through the void isn't a rate of speed, it's simply a phenomenon that happens when you attain 1% of light speed..."real space" gets replaced with "Void space". After which the only thing that matters is how much "real time" is spent in the Void (which in my game translates to one second per light year), the decel/retro thrusters kick in to drop you back into "real space" accordingly. |
September 19, 2011 - 12:32am | That's why I didn't address the void. I want to know about the time dilation before and after void travel. There is a significant dilation just leaving and re-entering the atmosphere. I want to know what the dilation is for reaching the void. I already know that travel in the void doesn't affect it. I want to know the hours and days of difference resulting from plain space travel. View my profile for a list of articles I have written, am writing, will write. "It's yo' mama!" —Wicket W. Warrick, Star Wars Ep. VI: Return of the Jedi "That guy's wise." —Logray, Star Wars Ep.VI: Return of the Jedi Do You Wanna Date My Avatar? - Felicia Day (The Guild) |
 September 19, 2011 - 4:35am | Two things; your example is 10%C and void speed is 1%C. IIRC time dilation at 1%C is insignificant so as to be ignored. However your example is 10%C so perhaps it will be noticeably shorter. But I don't have the math on hand and would have to pull a book and look up the formula, the thought of which at this time in the morning is too painful before my first cup of coffee. Perhaps Term Knar knows off the top of his head. EDIT: that's Terl Obar, damn you autocorrect. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
 September 19, 2011 - 5:40am | At 10% c, time dilation is only about 5.1%. So for the ship if an hour passed, those on the planet would see an hour and three minutes and 4.7 seconds go by. Not really enough to worry about. Ad Astra Per Ardua! My blog - Expanding Frontier Webmaster - The Star Frontiers Network & this site Founding Editor - The Frontier Explorer Magazine Managing Editor - The Star Frontiersman Magazine |
September 19, 2011 - 2:21pm | I meant 1%. Sorry. Boy, you all need a 'literal filter'.  View my profile for a list of articles I have written, am writing, will write. "It's yo' mama!" —Wicket W. Warrick, Star Wars Ep. VI: Return of the Jedi "That guy's wise." —Logray, Star Wars Ep.VI: Return of the Jedi Do You Wanna Date My Avatar? - Felicia Day (The Guild) |
September 19, 2011 - 2:32pm | Time dilation at 1% c is only 0.5% or an extra 18 seconds per hour. Ad Astra Per Ardua! My blog - Expanding Frontier Webmaster - The Star Frontiers Network & this site Founding Editor - The Frontier Explorer Magazine Managing Editor - The Star Frontiersman Magazine |
September 19, 2011 - 3:55pm | Okay, so a 7 day trip toward the void would have only about 50.4 minutes time dilation? View my profile for a list of articles I have written, am writing, will write. "It's yo' mama!" —Wicket W. Warrick, Star Wars Ep. VI: Return of the Jedi "That guy's wise." —Logray, Star Wars Ep.VI: Return of the Jedi Do You Wanna Date My Avatar? - Felicia Day (The Guild) |
September 19, 2011 - 4:05pm | Actually, it would be even less than that, probably something on the order of a little less than half of that, since that 0.5% is only applicable at 1%c. At lower speeds it would be even less of an effect. To calculate it exactly you'd have to integrate the time dilation equation (which is a function of velocity) over the velocity as a function of time. It can be done, it's just ugly. But as a good approximation using something like 2 or 2.5% average is probaby pretty close.Ad Astra Per Ardua! My blog - Expanding Frontier Webmaster - The Star Frontiers Network & this site Founding Editor - The Frontier Explorer Magazine Managing Editor - The Star Frontiersman Magazine |
 September 20, 2011 - 6:30am | Now for extra credit, calculate the communication signal delays of two ships moving at opposed jump-orbit transitions (one is decelerating inward, one accelerating outward) on opposite sides of the system. Don't forget to show your wave function method long-equations.  Time... and Space..... flat arches and undulating straight lines....... the shortest distance between any two points....... is through a closet window..... the Infinite... Vertex. is here and now Oh humans!!  We discover a galactic community filled with multiple species of aliens, and the first thing we think about is "how can we have sex with them?".~ anymoose, somewhere on the net... so... if you square a square it becomes a cube... if you square a cube does it become an octoid? |
September 20, 2011 - 8:41am | There are no extra delays, everything moves at the speed of light so it is just the distance/c regardless of velocity. However, the wavelengths would be blue shifted by up to 2% depending on their velocity and relative trajectories (i.e. both just under jump speed and headed directly toward each other = 2% shift, any other configuration results in a lower effect.) Ad Astra Per Ardua! My blog - Expanding Frontier Webmaster - The Star Frontiers Network & this site Founding Editor - The Frontier Explorer Magazine Managing Editor - The Star Frontiersman Magazine |
September 21, 2011 - 10:00am | Two ships (Ship-A and Ship-B) are moving at effective velocity to incur a time-dilation effect of 1day per 1min-ship-time, from a relative perspective of a com-tower on an asteroid in orbit of a cold super-jovian of 14Mj (Point-C)... Oh humans!! We discover a galactic community filled with multiple species of aliens, and the first thing we think about is "how can we have sex with them?".~ anymoose, somewhere on the net... so... if you square a square it becomes a cube... if you square a cube does it become an octoid? |
