An intriguing suggestion from w00t

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Deryn_Rys
November 23, 2010 - 4:46pm
W00t suggested that perhaps I should advertise this project in the SFman, which I'll admit made me feel that all the work I've poured into this project has been worth it. I've always been kind of apprehensive about my work, not being good enough to share with others outside of my small circle of friends, but w00t's been I would say instrumental in convincing me to first put up this project and then advertise it, and to me coming from someone who I admire for the quality of work and dedication to this hobby (read obsession) of ours means a lot.

All of you here I consider friends as well, and I've tried not to ask the obligatory "do you like it?"  so I'm just going to ask if you guys think the project as it stands is good enough to warrant advertising space in the Frontiersman?
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TerlObar
November 23, 2010 - 5:27pm
Since advertising space is free, I'd say go for it if you want the publicity right now.  I really haven't had time to actually read anything.  I've downloaded it all but haven't had the chance to read yet.
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w00t (not verified)
November 23, 2010 - 8:16pm
Thanks for the compliment. Many of us have a burden and love for the game, I just get more spotlight cause of my big mouth. :-) 

Critique 
I've perused most of your downloads, I try to read the text but ignore the stats for the most part. I don't know much about d20 (other than 4e), if this is text from the SRD reformatted for SF or if it's all original. Either way its an impressive amount of work. :-) 

Here are a few items I noticed and I'll comment at the end of this post.
  1. The document is large, I tried to add a TOC but Word gave me an error. A TOC would help find the section you want to read.
  2. The tables are difficult to read, the columns don't line up.
  3. The text formatting is not consistent in the document. Colors are hard to read on a PC, imo (I'm an ole fart!)
  4. Remove his/her, he/she. Its just confusing and difficult to read. In the Englishlanguage the male pronoun is consideredgeneric/genderless when used in this way. 
  5. There isn't descriptions for equipment.
  6. There isn't a die code or how to use dice. I guess it's assumed the reader knows the d20 system? Is a WOTC d20 book required for this game? 
    I'm looking for the basics, you have how to Making an Attack and Critical fumbles/hits. How to make an ability check, how to make a skill check, how to make a save.
Final Comment
Is this document, as-is, ready for public consumption. No. For ppl that will read in any format its not bad, but for me I need to be drawn to the document I'm reading. I expect a paperback to not have pictures, I expect an RPG to have pictures. I know you stripped them out but there are public domain images out there. We did a release for a D&D product using said images.

This document would be awesome;
with a table of contents, some border work, a few images here and there and standard formating (H1, H2, etc.) and the document broken into sections; Introduction (concepts), Creating a PC, Skills, Feats, Equipment, etc. 

I really hope this helps and does not discourage you from the project. It really depends on what you want to accomplish. 

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w00t (not verified)
November 23, 2010 - 8:30pm
Hrm... just a thought. Read my comment about Star Frontiers 4e in the general forums. Might be a direction you want to consider.

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Deryn_Rys
November 23, 2010 - 9:28pm
The tables are wonky because it was originally written using Microsoft works, so when I transfered it to Microsoft Word the tables got screwed up. A table of content was something I have held off from because as this is a work in progress things might be switched around or new things added which would require reworking the table of contents.

I put in notes about the equipment but haven't tackled actually writing descriptions yet because I was focusing on adding all the material I want in the system, and making sure the mechanics woirked, and then I would go back and work on filling in the blanks.

Stupid me didn't think about novice players when I created the system, as it was originally intended for my gaming group, who all came from a D&D and classic SF background, so I will try to write up something about the dice conventions used in the system.

The he/she thing was drilled into me by a feminist who hated the male pronoun thing, but that's an easy fix. The formatting spell and grammar check was hopefully going to be done by one of my players (and ex), but I doubt she'd ever do that for me now. As for Pics, I had temp pics, and if we take this project to the next step and put it out for non project consumption I'll ask you for addies to public domain scifi pics that we can put in the docs.

Thanks for the advice, by the way, Now I have some idea what I need to work on in the future to make this project better.


"Hey guys I wonder what this does"-Famous last words
"Hey guys, I think it's friendly." -Famous last words
"You go on ahead, I'll catch up." -Famous last words
"Did you here that?" -Famous last words