The Dralasitic Creed

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jedion357
May 3, 2010 - 11:37am
Page 30 of DRZebs has a Robot Malfunction Effect table

the eqplanation for haywire reads: "...It might....recite The Dralasitic Creed..."

Enquiring minds (mine) want to know just what is The Dralasitic Creed?
I have yet to really invest any serious thought into this topic yet but I wanted to get the ball rolling within the community and spark debate and discussion.

Having a written creed would make a great bit of fluff that, I for one would likely have my favorite dral PC quote from it from time to time like Quark quoting the Ferrengi Rules of Acquisition

Some general thoughts:

1. since it is THE Dralasitic Creed, it is likely something that is endorsed or generally followed by an overwhelmingly vast majority of dralasites. even a dral that paid little attention to it their whole life will suddenly find themselves reflecting on it after generating offspring and feeling the responsibility of parenthood.

2. It is likely Philosophical in nature

3. I may enshrine a dralasitic basic code of conduct and or moral code "The 5 Apendages"

Examples from other sources:

The Hebrew Shema: "Hear O Isreal, the Lord our god is One LORD."

From the Islams 5 Pillars: "There is no god but Allah and Mohamed is his prophet."

Christian tradition: The 10 Commandments

Theravada Budism: there is an analog to the 10 Commandments

Mormanism & BSG "War of the Gods II" (original series) : "As man is god was, as god is man will be."

Star Trek: The Ferengi Rules of Aquisition (180+ rules IIRC) "Once you have their money, never give it back." also "War is bad for business." and of course, "War is good for business."

Star Trek: Vulcan's version of the Hebrew Shema: "Infinite Diversity from infinite combination."

Triva- Lenard Nimoy, as a young boy in the synagogue peeked when everyone was supposed to have their heads bowed and eyes closed as the Rabbi prayed over the congregation and the rabbi had both of his hands out streatched in the shape of a jewish letter that was the first letter of God's name. Later on Star Trek they needed a Vulcan greeting and he suggested the Vulcan sign which was this hand sign he saw performed by the rabbi.
I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers!
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jedion357
May 3, 2010 - 11:52am
Personally I would like to see a set of statements that were, on the surface, seemingly contradictory.
but hints at a deeper wisdom


Like in the Ferengi Rule of A. "War is bad for business" & "War is good for business"

or in the Proverbs of Solomon: "Answer not a fool according to his folly lest he be wise in his own conciept" which is followed a few verses latter by "Answer a fool according to his folly lest he be wise in his own conceipt."

Something along the lines of "There is an Inner Truth and an Outer Truth, but ultimate Truth Flows from one to the other."

OR

Truth is Eternal
Truth is Temporal

Truth is only realized in the flow from Temporal to Eternal.

could also use words like relative and absolute which are important terms in the discussion of truth in a college world views class.
I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers!

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iggy
May 3, 2010 - 11:57am
I have an article submitted that briefly mentions Mol Upon, the dralasite who is credited with unifying the dralasites, establishing the rules of the debate circle, inventing cheese, and everything else good that no one remembers who it stated with.  The name Mol is a title kinda like Mahatma and the like.  I would think the dralasite creed is a collection of wise sayings credited to the Mol's.
Interestingly, in another article I have in the works (put off by my Celestia star map obsession) Mol Upon does not write his own words.  There are scribes that record his saying and life.  I would also love to write up the dralasite creed.  We could put it together from some of our dralasite sayings and grow it here in this project.
There is another book/writing mentioned in the Zeb's timeline that gets stolen that I would like to blend in to the history of the Mols.
-iggy

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jedion357
May 3, 2010 - 12:23pm
my purpose exactly, to bash out a series of statements that we can come to a general aggreement on that sound at once wise, dralasitic and philosophical with a small measure of irreverence.

also we can create a second document that would be general proverbs written by dralasites over the centuries
and some of these could mention the other core four.

for example: "If you're already pulling yazirian's leg don't try to pull his mane too."

"Never look a gift vrusk in the mandibles."
I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers!

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Imperial Lord
February 18, 2011 - 12:17am

"Laughter is food" is a good start...

Other than that, the Dralasites are mainly concerned with clowning around and maybe some debating.

It is likely that their "code" is actually a huge joke in and of itself.  This, of course, would not insult the Dralasites - quite the contrary - such sarcasm is part of who they are!


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jedion357
October 30, 2011 - 8:31am
Sight in dralasites is very different from other sapients. Where other beings see difficulties behind every opportunity, a dralasite sees opportunity behind every difficulty.
I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers!

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jedion357
November 29, 2011 - 6:40am
Black and White are absolutes but in life most things are shades of Gray. Gray can can never be an absolute being in the flow between Black and White. Attributed to Mol Utnitton.
I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers!

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jedion357
November 29, 2011 - 6:46am
Oh, bud, what do you see? Difficulty or Opportunity? They are both but two sides of the same shape. Attributed to Mol Conolonostron
I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers!

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jedion357
February 27, 2012 - 4:33pm
Dralasite philosophy- Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication.
I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers!

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Karxan
February 27, 2012 - 7:10pm
Shape and form are never permanent. Every situation can be changed.

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w00t (not verified)
March 1, 2012 - 11:48am
  • Black and white are opposite, gray glues them together. 
  • Gray is the glue that binds both black and white. 
  • Where black rules, gray parlays. Where white shines, gray brings balance.


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jedion357
March 12, 2012 - 2:19pm
Act today to succeed tomorrow.
I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers!

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w00t (not verified)
March 12, 2012 - 9:06pm
A pasty fluid is good for the soul!

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w00t (not verified)
March 12, 2012 - 9:09pm
Truth is never black and white, often it is buried in the gray. 

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jedion357
January 18, 2015 - 6:12am
"We must become the Change we want to see"

"There's more to balance than not falling over."
I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers!

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jedion357
January 18, 2015 - 6:18am
w00t wrote:
Truth is never black and white, often it is buried in the gray. 


How many shades of gray?
I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers!

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rattraveller
January 30, 2015 - 7:49pm

Playing a little catch up here but you have gone way to short on these. Most of what you have above are creedos or short one liners. So here is a Creed I had to learn once hope it provides some guidance.

Creed of the Noncommissioned Officer
No one is more professional than I. I am a Noncommissioned Officer, a leader of soldiers. As a Noncommissioned Officer, I realize that I am a member of a time honored corps, which is known as “The Backbone of the Army”. I am proud of the Corps of Noncommissioned Officers and will at all times conduct myself so as to bring credit upon the Corps, the Military Service and my country regardless of the situation in which I find myself. I will not use my grade or position to attain pleasure, profit, or personal safety.
Competence is my watchword. My two basic responsibilities will always be uppermost in my mind—accomplishment of my mission and the welfare of my soldiers. I will strive to remain technically and tactically proficient. I am aware of my role as a Noncommissioned Officer. I will fulfill my responsibilities inherent in that role. All soldiers are entitled to outstanding leadership; I will provide that leadership. I know my soldiers and I will always place their needs above my own. I will communicate consistently with my soldiers and never leave them uninformed. I will be fair and impartial when recommending both rewards and punishment.
Officers of my unit will have maximum time to accomplish their duties; they will not have to accomplish mine. I will earn their respect and confidence as well as that of my soldiers. I will be loyal to those with whom I serve; seniors, peers, and subordinates alike. I will exercise initiative by taking appropriate action in the absence of orders. I will not compromise my integrity, nor my moral courage. I will not forget, nor will I allow my comrades to forget that we are professionals, Noncommissioned Officers, leaders!

Sounds like a great job but where did you say we had to go?

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jedion357
January 31, 2015 - 3:50am
rattraveller wrote:

Playing a little catch up here but you have gone way to short on these. Most of what you have above are creedos or short one liners. So here is a Creed I had to learn once hope it provides some guidance.



thanks for the input, I had more or less only been using the Apostle's Creed as a guide stick which is more about belief, interesting that the Non Com's creed is more about action.

By and large I simply post a tidbit of philosophy/wisdom/something I read in a fortune cookie that struck me as sounding dralasite-ish in this thread so that I can find it latter. I also plan on playing a dralasite at some time that is always spouting bits and pieces of the dralasite creed in game and for that the short creedo's are perfect- print out a sheet of them and review them before every game and as situations develop in game have my character quote from dralasite philosophy or the creed.

However, your criticism is that what we have so far is thin and I agree with you on that.
I'm trying to shift my mental gears to rise to the challenge here but I keep coming back to the thought that the dralasite creed should be about belief and would thus be more like the apostle's creed and yet perhaps it could use more development.

So I agree with you RatT but I'm kind of drawing a blank- no doubt the a dralasite would have a witty saying for that- They would never say "cat got your tongue" unless it was to a human. The dralasite equiv would be something like "has all your fluid run to your extremities?"
I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers!

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rattraveller
January 31, 2015 - 5:05am
Since Dralasites love long drawn out debates their creed I am imagining goes on for several pages and that thousands of hours of debate went into it.
Sounds like a great job but where did you say we had to go?

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iggy
January 31, 2015 - 7:41am
Building on the debate relationship with the creed, there should be points and counterpoints in this Dralasitic Creed.  To a human not aware of this relationship the creed could sound like a bunch of conflicting nonsense.
-iggy

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jedion357
February 1, 2015 - 5:26am
Well....who wants to vollunteer to write 7 drawn out pages of debate to be the dralasite creed?

We do have this article:
http://www.frontierexplorer.org/book/dralasitic-creed
which was the fruit of discussion on their society

We could characterize it as being a basic Human centered understanding of dralasite philosophy. In fact the statement, "dralasite society has a conception of the family similar to humanity" could be used as evidence of the article being a paper written by a human to explain dralasite society and philosophy.

I like the point and counter point idea, Iggy.

It also occurs to me that the 3 point creed and the 5 appendages could be mixed into a more word sounding creed like that sounds more the the Non Com's creed.
I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers!