 February 27, 2009 - 10:54am | I quit playing Evercrack over Sony's total mismanagement of the product. and never bothered with WOW seeing as how those games tend to eat up 8hrs/day 7days/week and jack the spouse out of shape. But I was idly thinking: Star Frontiers would make a great MMORPG. Initially 4 races to choose from (3 more with the expansion) players can band together and form cadres (instead of guilds) lots of exciting things to do and places to see. The old AD skill system would be the easiest to adapt to the MMORPG style of skills and buffs , theres even room for crafting or research. and in stead of quest players acrue missions. Red Devil pirates, Dramue system gangsters, sathar agents, revolting mechanons, tons of conflict and content higher level gaming involving ship skills and the tremendous expense of ship ownership. but options for "poor" players to use reserve commissions in militias to get into Knight Hawk missions. The expansion would open with a mission involving first contact with the rim races that would have to be played to fully unlock it for play. That would be sweet, Though since SF is owned by Hasbro and would be ultimately run by Hasbro it could easily suck as much as Sony's running of Everquest. Sigh! I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
 February 27, 2009 - 4:08pm | I've had the same idea for decades, long before the MMORPG games of today ever came around (of which I've played exactly zero). A science fiction universe would be great for this kind of setting and I'd love to see SF done like this. The main issue (besides the fact that Hasbro owns the IP) is probably development of all the inital material so that there is enough there at the start to get going. Art was working on the beginnings of a SF RPG game but has suffered a serious setback with the loss of all his data a few months ago. Ad Astra Per Ardua! My blog - Expanding Frontier Webmaster - The Star Frontiers Network & this site Founding Editor - The Frontier Explorer Magazine Managing Editor - The Star Frontiersman Magazine |
 February 27, 2009 - 5:34pm | One of the ideas behind FrontierSpace(TM) is that fact it's not anyone's IP and we can freely do what your talking about. Is Art's RGP computer based? Multiplayer? (The .org forum is locked to the public) |
 February 27, 2009 - 5:52pm | No, no, no and no! "You're everything that's base in humanity," Cochrane continued. "Drawing up strict, senseless rules for the sole reason of putting you at the top and excluding anyone you say doesn't belong or fit in, for no other reason than just because you say so." —Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stephens, Federation |
February 27, 2009 - 8:32pm | That's only because that is the easiest to code up and unfortunately what the majority of modern on-line "RPG" gamers seem to want. The online RPG I've always envisioned was much different and much, much harder to implement because it was a real world with limitless possibilities. w00t, yes Art's game is a computer game and is inteneded to be multiplayer up to a few. The space ship combaat part can handle up to eight players. My last post about it got me thinking and I realized I had a copy of the source code that I had forgotten about from september (v1.44) which I've now sent to him. He was up to at least v1.60 before he lost his hard drives so if he didn't have a separate backup of that code at least he's only 6 months back instead of having to start from scratch. Ad Astra Per Ardua! My blog - Expanding Frontier Webmaster - The Star Frontiers Network & this site Founding Editor - The Frontier Explorer Magazine Managing Editor - The Star Frontiersman Magazine |
February 27, 2009 - 11:52pm | Not that I'm defending the current generation of MMORPGs, but I rather enjoyed the Evercrack when I was a member of a guild. One guild was into serious role play and staged events and did things together and it was fun. Someone would have a party at their home and like 20 characters would show and start talking in character it was challenging to stay in character, at first but was fun. So while the whole premise is grind out kills on monsters to rise in level it didn't have to be your total expience of the game. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
 February 28, 2009 - 6:03am | What's an MMO? |
February 28, 2009 - 5:30pm | Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game In the case of certain games administered by certain companies it means: Massive Monetary Online Rippoff of Playing Geeks I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
February 28, 2009 - 10:01pm | Not that I'm defending the current generation of MMORPGs, but I rather enjoyed the Evercrack when I was a member of a guild. One guild was into serious role play and staged events and did things together and it was fun. Someone would have a party at their home and like 20 characters would show and start talking in character it was challenging to stay in character, at first but was fun. So while the whole premise is grind out kills on monsters to rise in level it didn't have to be your total expience of the game. No, but that's what it ends up being, as most of the other players you run into are either a)trying to scam you, b) trying to kill you, c)both a&b, and, always d) too good to talk to you, if you weren't worth killing or scamming. Galaxies, again, comes to mind, but Evercrack and RuneScape both are just as bad. At least they're open and honest about being for pay, not like the "free" MMORPGs(such as Sea Fight and DarkOrbit, to name a couple)where it's impossible to get anywhere decent without purchasing items with "pearls" or "uridium" which you can only get by spending money. Oh, and I agree about what MMORPG really stands for "You're everything that's base in humanity," Cochrane continued. "Drawing up strict, senseless rules for the sole reason of putting you at the top and excluding anyone you say doesn't belong or fit in, for no other reason than just because you say so." —Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stephens, Federation |
 March 5, 2009 - 2:29pm | I never got into one of those online things, but I was in the WizKids tourny scene for 5 years and TALK ABOUT plastic crack habits! Pirates was the cheapest and my favborite, I was a Privateer for 2 years! Loved running the games and the Swag was cool too! I'd love to see a SF based home consol game come out. I like the X=Box 360 beas. FIAWOL
TANSTAAFL!! |
March 5, 2009 - 7:15pm | Speaking of plastic crack.... ahem... I play star wars/dnd/heroscape. I've empitied whole tackle boxes for crack. I know, I know. ...I just went an bought the son unit a box to keep our stuff in. I can't believe how addicting minis are. LOL |
March 6, 2009 - 2:06pm | Speaking of plastic crack.... ahem.. I can't believe how addicting minis are. LOL heh- just ordered another $70 worth of metal minis from Old Glory- gonna have to pay for the $50 membership to get the 40% off with another $300 worth of purchases planned for this year. shhh dont tell the spouse. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
March 6, 2009 - 4:07pm | Off-topic: A question for you, Jedi. Did you use Citadel Miniatures paints on your LC minis? Not that it matters, but I'm just curious. Awesome work, by the way. "You're everything that's base in humanity," Cochrane continued. "Drawing up strict, senseless rules for the sole reason of putting you at the top and excluding anyone you say doesn't belong or fit in, for no other reason than just because you say so." —Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stephens, Federation |
March 7, 2009 - 5:41am | heh- just ordered another $70 worth of metal minis from Old Glory- gonna have to pay for the $50 membership to get the 40% off with another $300 worth of purchases planned for this year. shhh dont tell the spouse. That's about what my monthly motorcycling budget is creeping up to these days! A new battery, a new fender I couldn't live without (yet no destination for it either LOL), rear shock modification, baffles for my mufflers, new mirrors, etc. Of course that one would be classified as "chrome crack"... |
March 7, 2009 - 5:26pm | Speaking of plastic crack.... ahem.. I can't believe how addicting minis are. LOL heh- just ordered another $70 worth of metal minis from Old Glory- gonna have to pay for the $50 membership to get the 40% off with another $300 worth of purchases planned for this year. shhh dont tell the spouse. Hello, Mrs. Jedi?  "You're everything that's base in humanity," Cochrane continued. "Drawing up strict, senseless rules for the sole reason of putting you at the top and excluding anyone you say doesn't belong or fit in, for no other reason than just because you say so." —Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stephens, Federation |
March 8, 2009 - 6:13am | Off-topic: A question for you, Jedi. Did you use Citadel Miniatures paints on your LC minis? Not that it matters, but I'm just curious. Awesome work, by the way. Actually when I first got into wargaming a few years back I bought the $1/bottle folk art (same quality as apple barrel brand @ Walmart) simply because I didn't know anybetter- some where out there are 2 armies being played with painted in student quality paints. I continue to use the cheap stuff for painting terrain as it makes sense to. However I've since upgraded to using vallejo's Model color its $3/bottle for a 1/3 of the volume of the Folk Art but the pigment saturation is 100% better and the bottles have a dropper style nozzel which lets you squeeze out just the paint you need. I haven't used the citadel paints but I think those are the ones that are a pot you pop open and dip a brush into which would be a pain for my painting style as i use a lot of glaze additive and even some matte additive and that requires mixing paint on the pallet. I do use Citadel inks but thats another bone of contention I have with the parent company- rumor has it that they're discontinuing the inks and they've started a whole new line of washes (I'm a little ticked as I use a ton of brown and chesnut ink and I now can't get them) Anyhow I tried their new Ogryn Flesh and low and behold its nothing more than Glaze medium and ink just formulate for a matte finish. The rub with that is you have to use their formulation where I prefer to mix my own till the glaze does what I want. I currently use Liquitex brand glazing medium which has a gloss finish but thats easily taken care of with a matte enamel spray at the end of painting. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
March 8, 2009 - 7:33am | Cool. The colors just looked similar was all. Citadel paints, inks(and minis)are generally a right pain in the posterior, and GW's business practices are something which gives their loyal fans more than their fair share of ulcers....those who aren't too busy with carnage and slaughter all round, that is. Me, I only ever got into one thing GW did, and that was Battle Fleet Gothic, but, my God, the minis for them were atrocious(especially anything that wasn't a Space Marine barge or a battleship...the Falchion-class and the Tau minis were especially disappointing), and Full Thrust is a better game system(with way better minis)anyway. Tho', you don't really have to have the minis to play FT.... "You're everything that's base in humanity," Cochrane continued. "Drawing up strict, senseless rules for the sole reason of putting you at the top and excluding anyone you say doesn't belong or fit in, for no other reason than just because you say so." —Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stephens, Federation |
March 9, 2009 - 8:47am | Tho', you don't really have to have the minis to play FT.... No you don't I even read some forum post form some guy in India who was playing DBA with card or wood counters for blocks of troops since the hobby never made in roads in India and the expense of importing figures was out rageous. However, I play a variety of wargames at a club at the local hobby store and I'd say that most of the guys I play with have a sort of prejudice against unpainted figures and crappy terrain. Just the nature of the beast with my group and I certainly derive a lot of pleasure from seeing a well laid out wargame table. Though it is a lot of work sometimes. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
March 9, 2009 - 3:46pm | Ahh, I can understand your group's prejudices, jedi. Even I like seeing a beautiful wargame table(incredible amount of work that it is), and it does help. And, I understand the dude from India...time and money being the two things I will always have least in abundance. "You're everything that's base in humanity," Cochrane continued. "Drawing up strict, senseless rules for the sole reason of putting you at the top and excluding anyone you say doesn't belong or fit in, for no other reason than just because you say so." —Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stephens, Federation |
March 9, 2009 - 6:46pm | ...time and money being the two things I will always have least in abundance. I do not envy you my friend; those with time trade it for money and those with money trade it for time but you may be totally SOoL!  I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
March 10, 2009 - 3:32pm | Well, my time is frittered away by the need to make money, which is then traded for not having to worry about the bill collectors baying and nipping at my heels. But, it beats having to trade my time looking for the means of making money, because my job got traded for some corporate @$$hole's pleasure junket to Las Vegas, like way too many of my neighbors are having to do. "You're everything that's base in humanity," Cochrane continued. "Drawing up strict, senseless rules for the sole reason of putting you at the top and excluding anyone you say doesn't belong or fit in, for no other reason than just because you say so." —Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stephens, Federation |
