Subject for Issue 9 - Asteroid life

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elpotof
April 2, 2008 - 6:54am

I was thinking about the first KH0 module and it had reference to an asteroid pirate base. After looking though the SF universe, not much has been done to explore this type of habitat, and I'd like to take this opportunity to do so.

I've done a little research and it seems that asteroid living may well be a viable effort. In fact, a sizeable community could exist within these areas. There is a large scope for development , from mining to construction of bases and ships ( there are a lot of viable elements in asteroids). Some asteroids may even have geothermic activity, providing a heat source allowing these communities to exist further out in a planetary system.

Add to this a 'freetown' attitude and a pirate/ pioneer attitude, mixed with a multitude of structures and ships, theres a huge scope for an article for issue 9. I'll start producing a sample plan for an asteroid 'city', and develop a few drawings to support this. Any views on the subject are welcomed.

Note: I don't want to make this a project - There is a need for dedicated articles for Starfrontiersman. If there is enough material to produce a book on the matter, it'll be considered after the article is completed.

Comments:

Full Bleed's picture
Full Bleed
April 2, 2008 - 3:59pm
I think it sounds like a great article.

Thermal events (like in "The Chronicles of Riddick" and "Armageddon") might be kind of fun to play too.  Or is "thermal events" an article in and of itself... ;)






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Corjay (not verified)
April 2, 2008 - 6:03pm
No, I think thermal events would make a good subheading for the asteroid article. Also, The Chronicles of Riddick was not a good example. It seems to me that the breathable atmosphere of an asteroid would be burned away by a thermal event and replace it with heavy metals, sulphur, and ammonia, making it impossible to breathe, so it should only happen in an environment where you need to wear a spacesuit and only close to a sun, like between Mercury and Venus. Additionally, on the other side of a thermal event is a freezing event, so it's not too hospitable.

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Full Bleed
April 3, 2008 - 12:36am
The Chronicles of Riddick was still a good example of context and drama with people being under-the-gun of a impending thermal event (albeit, on a planet, I believe.)  That was a great scene in that movie and could play out wonderfully in a game.  Give the players rebreathers or space suits if you need the realism... but racing against a clock, away from danger, toward a goal is almost always fun if run right.  Give GM's some mechanics to pull it off easily and I think you have the makings of a nice article that could stand on its own.

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CleanCutRogue
April 3, 2008 - 5:55am
Science is only 50% of Science Fiction (honestly - count the letters!).  I'm surprised with the amazing success of Star Wars, Star Trek, Riddick, and many many others that people get hung up on the realism factor all the time.

It was a great part of the story - it had suspense and action and even some emotional element.  Willful suspension of disbelief is a requirement of loving good science fiction!
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Full Bleed
April 4, 2008 - 12:12pm
CleanCutRogue wrote:
Willful suspension of disbelief is a requirement of loving good science fiction!


I could not agree more!  :)



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umungus
April 9, 2008 - 12:48pm
I say go for it.
There are many reasons why astroids would be utilized. A military outpost, Observation platform, Large scale and private mining in astroid belts could all be a very viable part of Star Frontiers. whole towns could be hollowed out of a large astroid. These towns could be dens for pirates, working stiffs, Sathar agents, Treasure hunters looking to cash in, etc. The possibilities for adventures are enless.

I used a hollowed out astroid in an adventure for a secret science lab. Doing experiments on things illegal and too dangerous to have near populated worlds. The characters felt it neccessary to overload the reactor and detonate the whole mess... hehehe

would you make it a zero g affair? or have some sort of artificial gravity or centrifigal force?

At least I got to scare an alien rabbit thingy......


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Gergmaster
April 11, 2008 - 5:06pm
CleanCutRogue wrote:
Science is only 50% of Science Fiction (honestly - count the letters!).  I'm surprised with the amazing success of Star Wars, Star Trek, Riddick, and many many others that people get hung up on the realism factor all the time.

It was a great part of the story - it had suspense and action and even some emotional element.  Willful suspension of disbelief is a requirement of loving good science fiction!


And some times it can only account for 25% depending on what kind of Sci-Fi you are into.
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w00t (not verified)
April 13, 2008 - 4:13pm

I would like to see more on this. If I ever get that Random Planet-System Generator I think your additons would be perfect to add. :-)

Example:
Stellar Feature Table
Dice RollResult
Description

1-10
Alien deep-space life form
Some unknown creature, able to life in deep-space , near a star on on a moon, without the need for life-support is found.



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elpotof
May 7, 2008 - 4:39am
I mean to say weeks ago thanks for all the input for this piece, but other things have creeped in (as they always do!) This article hasn't been forgotten and I'm working on it where I can. I already have 20+ pages produced, so there's a fair bit - drawings still to be done.

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umungus
May 12, 2008 - 9:57am
elpotof wrote:
I mean to say weeks ago thanks for all the input for this piece, but other things have creeped in (as they always do!) This article hasn't been forgotten and I'm working on it where I can. I already have 20+ pages produced, so there's a fair bit - drawings still to be done.


I have been in the same predicament, not enough time lately. I have the description and text almost done for the mass accelerater. I still need to finish the artwork. I can PM the text if you are still interested.

At least I got to scare an alien rabbit thingy......


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Gergmaster
May 12, 2008 - 9:06pm
Elpotop look up the series called the Saga of the Seven Suns. It is by Kevin J. Anderson who wrote about a gypsy like human faction that uses asteroid bases to hide from the Kingdom of Man (who comes after them with extreme military force). There are also some other cool ideas I am looking into writing about in the SFMAN with inspiration from this series.
Confucious Says:
     Man with one chopstick go hungry.
     Man who eat many prunes get good run for money.
     Man who live in glass house should change clothes in basement.

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elpotof
May 13, 2008 - 8:45am
Thanks Gergmmaster - I've actually bought the book and haven't read it! That's what happens when you move house. I'll dig it out and make it a priority to read!

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Gergmaster
May 13, 2008 - 9:20am
NP (no problem) another great resource is Alastair Reynolds's Revelation Space series. He uses the idea that people one day use asteroids as habitats, cities, labs, and getaway spots. Pretty neat concept.
Confucious Says:
     Man with one chopstick go hungry.
     Man who eat many prunes get good run for money.
     Man who live in glass house should change clothes in basement.

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Corvus
May 13, 2008 - 9:21am
Gergmaster wrote:
NP (no problem) another great resource is Alastair Reynolds's Revelation Space series. He uses the idea that people one day use asteroids as habitats, cities, labs, and getaway spots. Pretty neat concept.


Now you've got me pondering conversions of Demarchists, Conjoiners and other Inhibitorverse things.  Sheesh!  Wink
If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. -- Carl Sagan

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w00t (not verified)
May 13, 2008 - 11:15am
Corvus wrote:
Gergmaster wrote:
NP (no problem) another great resource is Alastair Reynolds's Revelation Space series. He uses the idea that people one day use asteroids as habitats, cities, labs, and getaway spots. Pretty neat concept.


Now you've got me pondering conversions of Demarchists, Conjoiners and other Inhibitorverse things. Sheesh! Wink


I'm just pondering... Undecided

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Gergmaster
May 13, 2008 - 4:17pm
That would be a cool little setting for SF. But, it might be too grim for people.
Confucious Says:
     Man with one chopstick go hungry.
     Man who eat many prunes get good run for money.
     Man who live in glass house should change clothes in basement.