 March 16, 2008 - 11:11pm | I lobbied for this a couple times in the past.. but the idea, as intuitive as it seems, didn't seem to gain any traction. Hopefully, you'll be more successful. ;) |
 March 17, 2008 - 1:48am | It got done to an extent. In fact, it got successfully implimented in Firefox and IE. But there were problems with certain browsers or operating systems that Bill couldn't overcome, and after he got a new job and had to move his family to another state, there's nothing he could do but put this issue on the back burner. People need to remember that Bill is not a corporation. He's one man with a life. He'll get to it when he gets to it, or when he can find someone to do it for him. |
 March 17, 2008 - 8:21am | Well it doesn't work on Firefox on Linux which I what I use. I know Bill is busy which is why I labeled it 'Minor' and the text says "it would be nice". I agree, it's really just a minor irritation and therefore should only have a low prirority. Ad Astra Per Ardua! My blog - Expanding Frontier Webmaster - The Star Frontiers Network & this site Founding Editor - The Frontier Explorer Magazine Managing Editor - The Star Frontiersman Magazine |
March 17, 2008 - 8:30am | No. He disabled it when it wouldn't work on all platforms. It apparently caused bugs on the platform it didn't work on. |
March 18, 2008 - 11:34pm | No. He disabled it when it wouldn't work on all platforms. It apparently caused bugs on the platform it didn't work on. So, the "new" links through the forums themselves don't work on some platforms? All that would need to be done to use the same mechanic is to append "#new" to the "What's New" links. |
March 18, 2008 - 11:40pm | People need to remember that Bill is not a corporation. He's one man with a life. He'll get to it when he gets to it, or when he can find someone to do it for him. And people need to remember that a community relies on the constructive criticism of its contributors to evolve in a positive direction. When people can't make decent suggestions for fear of being reprimanded and reminded about how limited Bill's time is, then the feedback section may as well be taken down. |
March 19, 2008 - 6:51am | I didn't mean it like that. I was just saying that a lot of people
lately are requesting a lot of Bill, and patience is the word of the
day. I didn't mean they should stop their suggestions, but that they
should wait on Bill without pressure. No. He disabled it when it wouldn't work on all platforms. It apparently caused bugs on the platform it didn't work on. So, the "new" links through the forums themselves don't work on some platforms? All that would need to be done to use the same mechanic is to append "#new" to the "What's New" links. |
 March 19, 2008 - 9:29pm | Corjay's mixing two issues. The problem was when I tried to dynamically cause the "What's New" indicator in the tab at the top of the site to change color depending on whether or not you currently have any material in your "what's new" page. It was a good idea but sadly was hard to implement because it required an inordinate amount of server-side querying to occur on each and every page load, and some browsers timed out. The thing you're asking for, TerlObar, isn't that difficult to do. You're right, it's basically just appending a "#new" to the links. I can do this pretty quickly as a test, and we can see if it works in all cases. 3. We wear sungoggles during the day. Not because the sun affects our
vision, but when you're cool like us the sun shines all the time. |
March 20, 2008 - 12:27am | Ammendment to previous post: it's not as simple as you'd think - there is one trick that I have to work out. Because of the order of pagination in Drupal core (which I've already hacked too much for most avid Drupal folks) it's not possible to append "#new" in all cases. If the new content isn't on the first page of comments, it won't resolve properly. Since individual users can select the number of comments per "page" it's not a simple matter to direct you to the right page easily. I'll work it out though. I did it once for the Forums, I should be able to figure it out again for the What's New page. 3. We wear sungoggles during the day. Not because the sun affects our
vision, but when you're cool like us the sun shines all the time. |
March 20, 2008 - 9:28am | Like I said, it's a minor annoyance so don't waste too much time on it. As you said, it should be similar if not identical to the code for the 'new' link in the forurms. Since it existed there, I figured it shouldn't be too hard to replicate the exact same functionality on a different page. Ad Astra Per Ardua! My blog - Expanding Frontier Webmaster - The Star Frontiers Network & this site Founding Editor - The Frontier Explorer Magazine Managing Editor - The Star Frontiersman Magazine |
March 20, 2008 - 9:35am | BTW, it looks like you already added it and it seems to be working. I was just clicking through all the new items on my 'What's New' page and was ending up at the new posts, even when they were on the second page of posts instead of at the top of the thread. Thanks. Ad Astra Per Ardua! My blog - Expanding Frontier Webmaster - The Star Frontiers Network & this site Founding Editor - The Frontier Explorer Magazine Managing Editor - The Star Frontiersman Magazine |
March 20, 2008 - 2:15pm | Corjay's mixing two issues. The problem was when I tried to dynamically cause the "What's New" indicator in the tab at the top of the site to change color depending on whether or not you currently have any material in your "what's new" page. It was a good idea but sadly was hard to implement because it required an inordinate amount of server-side querying to occur on each and every page load, and some browsers timed out. I was slightly off, but that's not the issue I was confusing. I was confusing the New Post issue of not going to the latest post when posting. You tried it and it worked for me and others, but it caused bugs for some.The thing you're asking for, TerlObar, isn't that difficult to do. You're right, it's basically just appending a "#new" to the links. I can do this pretty quickly as a test, and we can see if it works in all cases. |
March 20, 2008 - 2:19pm | By the way, TerlObar, if you haven't already, you should change the dropdown boxes at the top of the comments fields, just below the OP. It gives you the option to choose oldest post first, or newest post first. Set it to "Newest First" and then click the "Save Settings" button to the right. It allow you to view the newest post when you click on a link in the What's New window. |
March 20, 2008 - 8:52pm | Looks like it's working now. :) Thanks! |
March 20, 2008 - 10:04pm | Actually, not quite. At least not for me. It seems to work most of the time but on a few topics it doesn't seem to go to the right place. These are usually ones where the new content is on the second page. Specifically, this time around it didn't work for the Rocket batteries thread, the Why is everyone's aliens... thread and the StarFrontiersman Issue 8 thread. Ad Astra Per Ardua! My blog - Expanding Frontier Webmaster - The Star Frontiers Network & this site Founding Editor - The Frontier Explorer Magazine Managing Editor - The Star Frontiersman Magazine |
March 22, 2008 - 9:47pm | Same here. Doesn't work on multipage topics (in FireFox.) Never noticed that it didn't work from within forums (though I very rarely go into forums)... but it sounds like CCR got it working there... so I suppose it's just a matter of time before it works from the "What's New." |
