 February 4, 2008 - 9:04am | An idea whose time has come, I say, as more and more people(like me) are using Open Office instead of that Microsoft piece of @#$!@ to do their word processing, spreadsheet and database work. "You're everything that's base in humanity," Cochrane continued. "Drawing up strict, senseless rules for the sole reason of putting you at the top and excluding anyone you say doesn't belong or fit in, for no other reason than just because you say so." —Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stephens, Federation |
 February 4, 2008 - 9:06am | Man, am I the only one who does things in plain text anymore? If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. -- Carl Sagan |
 February 4, 2008 - 11:02am | Man, am I the only one who does things in plain text anymore? hehe Corvus. between you and Shadow Shack (who uses Paint) your bringing back Windows 3.11!  |
February 8, 2008 - 7:57pm | All hil Windows 3.x. "You're everything that's base in humanity," Cochrane continued. "Drawing up strict, senseless rules for the sole reason of putting you at the top and excluding anyone you say doesn't belong or fit in, for no other reason than just because you say so." —Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stephens, Federation |
 February 8, 2008 - 8:17pm | Bring back DOS!!! We dont need no stinkin Windows. Time flies when your having rum. Im a government employee, I dont goof-off. I constructively abuse my time. |
February 9, 2008 - 8:23am | UNIX anyone? "You're everything that's base in humanity," Cochrane continued. "Drawing up strict, senseless rules for the sole reason of putting you at the top and excluding anyone you say doesn't belong or fit in, for no other reason than just because you say so." —Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stephens, Federation |
 February 20, 2008 - 5:44pm | Am I unique that I like Windows? :-P You know... you can always zip the file and upload it that way. In fact, I'd prefer ya did that so I don't have to buy more storage space for all these uploads. :-) 3. We wear sungoggles during the day. Not because the sun affects our
vision, but when you're cool like us the sun shines all the time. |
February 20, 2008 - 8:05pm | That would be an extra step for the uploader and the downloader. Doable... I'm not sure how compressed you can get and ODS file. -w00t zip the lip! |
February 23, 2008 - 11:40am | I'm sure it would be no more or less than a standard MS Office file. Or, if you enjoy big files as much as I do, not a great deal. "You're everything that's base in humanity," Cochrane continued. "Drawing up strict, senseless rules for the sole reason of putting you at the top and excluding anyone you say doesn't belong or fit in, for no other reason than just because you say so." —Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stephens, Federation |
March 2, 2008 - 5:46pm | Can an ODS document be viewed in Word or any other way? I really don't see the point in sharing documents with people who can't view them... 3. We wear sungoggles during the day. Not because the sun affects our
vision, but when you're cool like us the sun shines all the time. |
 March 2, 2008 - 11:55pm | Can an ODS document be viewed in Word or any other way? I really don't see the point in sharing documents with people who can't view them... MSOfice doesn't read/write ODS docuements natively, although Sun does have a plug-in you can download for MSOffice to read OpenOffice files (ODS file format). Of course you could always install OpenOffice (it's free) on Windows. Being a Linux user myself, I use OpenOffice normally myself. Ad Astra Per Ardua! My blog - Expanding Frontier Webmaster - The Star Frontiers Network & this site Founding Editor - The Frontier Explorer Magazine Managing Editor - The Star Frontiersman Magazine |
March 3, 2008 - 2:18am | OpenOffice can also read and manipulate Word documents. Problem is, I've never been able to get Word to read a .doc file that has been manipulated by OpenOffice. I don't even like how undeveloped it is. It's like it's just barely in the beta stage, if that far. At any rate, I can't really formulate an appropriate reason not to allow the format. It's just one file type, and it is fairly popular, so I really don't see the harm. |
March 3, 2008 - 9:17pm | alright... done 3. We wear sungoggles during the day. Not because the sun affects our
vision, but when you're cool like us the sun shines all the time. |
March 3, 2008 - 9:25pm | By the way, I don't know what an "OpenOffice formation" is. |
March 3, 2008 - 9:31pm | haha me neither. I don't use Open Office, though I'm generally a fan of open source projects. I use an open-source browser, email client, development tools, and even PDF printer. But I've learned to tame Word pretty well and am no longer so frustrated with it that I need an open source equivalent. Most other migrations to open-source products has been out of frustration with an existing product. 3. We wear sungoggles during the day. Not because the sun affects our
vision, but when you're cool like us the sun shines all the time. |
March 3, 2008 - 10:07pm | OpenOffice was born strictly out of the frustration with the corporation (Microsoft), not the product (MS Office), in the same way Lenux was. MS Office, like Explorer, has become a symbol of Microsoft's attempt at creating a monopoly and forcing out competitors, so that they can set the bar of prices and control development in their favor. |
March 4, 2008 - 9:52am | I'd agree with that assesment. I'd be more than happy to use MSOffice although I don't like the new Office 2007 interface. They just don't have a Linux version (my primary OS) and it's a pain to switch back and forth between OS's. I do it because I have to have clean MSOffice documents to pass up the chain of command to the project at NASA and becuase the Univeristy I teach a night class at uses it. But for my own personal use OpenOffice works just fine. The only place I really perfer MSOffice to OpenOffice is PowerPoint, it is just more usable for the way I do my presentations than OpenOffice Impress. Otherwise, my level of use of the products is so basic that the differences are irrelevant. Ad Astra Per Ardua! My blog - Expanding Frontier Webmaster - The Star Frontiers Network & this site Founding Editor - The Frontier Explorer Magazine Managing Editor - The Star Frontiersman Magazine |
March 4, 2008 - 6:31pm | Well... ODS is now permitted. So everyone run out there and load the site up with content I can't view now. :-) 3. We wear sungoggles during the day. Not because the sun affects our
vision, but when you're cool like us the sun shines all the time. |
March 4, 2008 - 10:21pm | To those of you unable to use MS Office because of your platform (Linux, Unix, etc.), look into Samba. |
March 4, 2008 - 10:32pm | Samba is a protocol for file sharing. It doesn't allow you to run Windows programs on Linux, just access Widows disks from a Linux box. There is software that allows you to run Windows programs on Linux (wine being a good example) but they tend to lag, i.e. the newest Windows programs (or versions of programs) don't run. For example the last time I really used it (about 2 years ago) it was MSOffice 2000 that was fully supported although MSOffice 2003 had been out for a while. Now I just run VMWare Server (it's free) and have a Windows virtual machine running on my Linux desktop. Its good for everything but graphics intensive games. Ad Astra Per Ardua! My blog - Expanding Frontier Webmaster - The Star Frontiers Network & this site Founding Editor - The Frontier Explorer Magazine Managing Editor - The Star Frontiersman Magazine |
March 4, 2008 - 11:13pm | Thanks for the clarification The newest versions of Microsoft products purposefully don't work with those products. Microsoft has now been fined over 2 billion dollars US by the European Union for not allowing Microsoft products to be ported through Samba and other programs between March 2004 and March 2008 (the monopolistic practices I mentioned earlier). |
March 5, 2008 - 1:18pm | Here are a couple of links to MS office plugins that allow MSOffice to read ODS format documents. I've never used the first but the second, from SUN (the main developer bethind Star/Open Office) seems to work fine with my version of MSOffice (2003) Enjoy. http://odf-converter.sourceforge.net/ http://www.sun.com/software/star/odf_plugin/index.jsp Ad Astra Per Ardua! My blog - Expanding Frontier Webmaster - The Star Frontiers Network & this site Founding Editor - The Frontier Explorer Magazine Managing Editor - The Star Frontiersman Magazine |
March 10, 2008 - 10:01am | Thanks Bill, for adding Open Office support. "You're everything that's base in humanity," Cochrane continued. "Drawing up strict, senseless rules for the sole reason of putting you at the top and excluding anyone you say doesn't belong or fit in, for no other reason than just because you say so." —Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stephens, Federation |
 March 30, 2010 - 8:30pm | Yeah since I discovered open office I've stopped using microcraps stuff. I've had less crashes and hang up then before when using office or works. I also use a program named Celtx and scribus from time to time. Celtx is a screen writting program. www.celtx.com Gold is for the mistress-silver for the maid-copper for the craftsman cunning at his trade.But Iron-Cold Iron- is master of them all |
