Holo screen

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jedion357
December 10, 2015 - 4:08am
Just thinking that there should be a body comp progit to help regulate holo screens. Holo screens have a disk to run a specific program. This progit should operate like a Multi-disk CD changer. With an audio act progit in the same body comp you'd be able to change programs by voice command.
I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers!
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jedion357
December 16, 2015 - 6:12am
Would holo screens in invisibility mode not be regulated to military and police on most developed worlds? And yet most computer techs can write the disk for it to be used in invisibility mode.
I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers!

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jedion357
December 16, 2015 - 6:16am
Star Play has campainged to prevent limiting or regulating of the holo screen on Minotaur since this device finds so much use in the holo vid industry. Clarion might require registering or licensing for ownership of the device due to potential abuse.
I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers!

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rattraveller
December 16, 2015 - 6:14pm
There was a crazy Keanu Reeves movie (is that an oxymoron?) where he was an undercover cop who when off duty wore an ever shifting holoscreen to protect his identity. Try looking that up for some ideas on regulating holoscreens.
Sounds like a great job but where did you say we had to go?

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ChrisDonovan
December 16, 2015 - 9:51pm
I could easily see holo-screens being "government/license-only" items.  Alternately, they could be "clipper chipped" to send a location if pinged by an authorized query (from local authorities/Star Law/UPF etc).  If so, I would expect it not to be common knowledge that the chip existed, or else everyone would just go to the nearest Tech guy and have them removed.

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Tchklinxa
December 17, 2015 - 11:11am
There could be partial civil ones... say capable of creating different fashion looks without changing a persons identity, so face, eye, hair, height & true weight could remain the same, but a person could have a business suit type look that could be changed to evening dress for a night out on the town.
 "Never fire a laser at a mirror."

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Tchklinxa
December 17, 2015 - 11:12am
Ooh girls could wear special holo caps that act as future wigs!
 "Never fire a laser at a mirror."

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ChrisDonovan
December 17, 2015 - 1:46pm
Gives a whole new meaning to the term "wardrobe malfunction"... ;)

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jedion357
December 17, 2015 - 4:38pm
A stepped down civilian holo screen could be a piece of free starting equipment.
I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers!

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iggy
December 17, 2015 - 8:10pm
I'd say that cheaper  (half cost) commercial holoscreens are easily recognized as a hologram.   The may shimmer, have offset and alignment issues, be slightly transparent, and grainy.  Thow they are half cost they are limited memory  and have to have single program disks.  The programs are largely controlled by the fashion industry and custom programs are expensive and hard to implement on the proprietary commercial hardware. 
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jedion357
December 17, 2015 - 8:16pm
I like the sound of that. 
I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers!

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Tekrat04
December 17, 2015 - 8:36pm
rattraveller wrote:
There was a crazy Keanu Reeves movie (is that an oxymoron?) where he was an undercover cop who when off duty wore an ever shifting holoscreen to protect his identity. Try looking that up for some ideas on regulating holoscreens.

The 2006 movie A Scanner Darkly. Based on 1977 Philp K. Dick novel of the same name. 

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TerlObar
December 19, 2015 - 9:13am
And remember the holoscreen in the rules is only 80% effective.  The rest of the time people know that you're wearing a screen or if you're in camoflage mode you are seen.
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Tchklinxa
December 19, 2015 - 9:49am
There should be devices that can be used to scan for and or disrupt holoscreens, some places of business might allow for holoscreen fashion devices while others would not. 

Many standard night clubs might allow them but high end clubs might not (holo fashion screens for dress, costume and hair styles might be considered vulgar middle-class). Most general public places (malls, parks, small business and so on) would not probably have an effective way to scan for them regardless of posted rules.

Business & Government buildings/facilities worried about security would either not allow them on their property or have major restrictions, would scan for them, the same as weapons.


 "Never fire a laser at a mirror."

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jedion357
December 19, 2015 - 7:21pm
I like the vulgar middle class angle: rich people pay for a real hair style, they still use a fashion Bolo screen when convenient though they will deny it.
I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers!

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rattraveller
December 25, 2015 - 10:19am
That seems contradictory. If holoscreens are hard to get and maybe secretive then how are they available to the vulgar middle classes? For holoscreens to be middle class they would need the avaiability of Toyotas not BMWs. If they are the cheap step down versions they would still be expensive especially ones which would have to be customized like for hair styles and clothing given that it would need adjust for the gender, height and appearance of the wearer.

Think of it this way, there are civilian versions of military night vision devices on the market. Not as durable or versital but they sure ain't cheap. Civilian fashion holoscreens would be for the rich on the go person who needs to change from the business meeting hairstyle to the business dinner hairstyle to the "after" business night life without the bother of going to the hair automat inbetween.
Sounds like a great job but where did you say we had to go?

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Tchklinxa
December 25, 2015 - 10:46am
That is a good point.

I was thinking about holoscreen caps in particular for hair styles, that would probably be the cheapest version... even Drals & Vrusks might go for the fashion. Smile Drals/Vrusk with hair or with strange holovid constructs on their heads (geometric stuff, psychedelic light shows, fish image swimming between antennae)?

Middle-class can afford Ipads, Iphones and so on, so I am sure a holocap/wig would be affordable (high end $) for folks. Some people go broke on fashion who are poor too. There would be a market for second hand repaired models too.   

 "Never fire a laser at a mirror."

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rattraveller
December 26, 2015 - 8:01am
Affording is an interesting word. Alot of affording something is the dedication to it. Many people have Iphones but not all the little accessories or even the understanding to fully use one with all its capabilities. This is not ignorance just they have one for any of several reasons but don't have the need to fully use it.

Meanwhile others can afford to wait in line for two days to get the newest model which will be half the price in six months and all the bugs in it will be fixed by then.

Cars are a pretty good example of affordability. If everyone could afford the "buy a new car every seven years" planned obselesence we wouldn't have alot of the accidents and pollution we have. Heck if everyone could afford the basic maintenance a car requires we would all be better off. Most people can only afford the car but not the extras. BUT American society pretty much demands you have a car especially since most Americans don't live in big cities with decent public transportation. Heck Uber aint gonna show their face in my town for a long time if ever.

But that is a rant for a different time.
Sounds like a great job but where did you say we had to go?

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Tchklinxa
December 26, 2015 - 3:17pm
LOL... well you proved my point. "Afford" unwisely is the American way, some how I see folks at least getting their hands on screens that allow small changes like hair.

My local PT sucks, though there is a push for at least safer conditions on the light rail. 
 "Never fire a laser at a mirror."

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jedion357
December 28, 2015 - 4:30am
Civilian grade screens- cheaper, less durable, less capable - not something a player really wants to add to an equipment list but in an adventure like Volturnus if that is what you found in the cago containers on the Sereana Dawn then your going to take it . as a referee I'd let a player use one to try to match someone's hair style for the purpose of running a bluff in low light. There would also be the possibility of some creative rewiring: setting the holo cap on a rock and programing it to come on an present a furry ball as a distraction of some sort. Plus one for the dralasite wearing a 70s style afro.
I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers!

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jedion357
December 28, 2015 - 4:32am
Question: are robots fooled by holo screens and to what extent?
I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers!

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Tchklinxa
December 28, 2015 - 7:20am
That is a good Q. It might do with their optic/scanner abilities/programming... like some would be able to & others not?
 "Never fire a laser at a mirror."

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ChrisDonovan
December 29, 2015 - 6:55pm
You know, all this talk about the functions of the various screens made me realize.  Holo screens already have some utility against energy weapons.  Tweak the concept to throw in inertia resistence, throw the "disguise cap" idea on top of that and you get the Power suits from Captain Power & The Soldiers of the Future.


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rattraveller
January 1, 2016 - 9:22pm
Thinking that robots would or would not be fooled by holoscreens is a very subjective questions. Alot depends on their level, logic functions, sensors, programming, situation and whatever else I am not thinking of.

Taking the Star Wars approach were the "robots" seem to all be an intelligent race with emotions maybe not. But is SF robots are alot more primitive so they would just accept the living beings as presented unless their programming requires them to recognize and question an individual wearing one.
Sounds like a great job but where did you say we had to go?

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jedion357
January 2, 2016 - 5:44am
Search and destroy software for SF robots is probably more discriminatory. Presence of IR scanners may or may not cause the robot to realize something is off especially where lower level robots are concerned.
I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers!

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jedion357
January 2, 2016 - 6:01am
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I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers!