A man in need of a plan

Inigo Montoya's picture
Inigo Montoya
September 11, 2016 - 11:30am
I'm looking for some floor plans of something that I can use as a lunar base. I need a large complex sketched out and am in a time crunch. I have very little time due to my work schedule and am trying to cheat as much as possible. Do we have an archive of maps/floor plans around here?
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ChrisDonovan
September 11, 2016 - 11:49am
Typing "lunar base floorplan" into Google would be a good start.

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Inigo Montoya
September 11, 2016 - 7:30pm
I didn't have much luck with that lunar base search. I am not really looking for a traditional lunar base.  Allow me another approach. I am trying to create a lunar base for an extinct civilization (modern tech) that is strictly in-system. The base would be large and used for scientific research as well as a collection/processing point for resources collected from that solar system. 

The base would house around 500 souls. Aside from processing plants, storage tanks, research labs, and living quarters, it would contain a large mall-like facility for service shops, cafeteria and entertainment. Along with these features, there would be greenhouse structures for food cultivation. 

This is a largish moon with a very thin, toxic atmosphere and has a .5 gravity reading.  What do I still need to consider or add in order to flesh this out?

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ChrisDonovan
September 11, 2016 - 8:36pm
I saw several with that search that would seem to meet requirements, such as these:

http://www.meridiansshadow.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Copernicus-Base-3-7-11-small.gif

http://www.meridiansshadow.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Rinkers-Knot-3-7-11-small.gif

You might also change "lunar" to "moon", "asteroid" etc for more options.


The atmosphere and gravity really wouldn't affect floorplans that much.  Realistically, they wouldn't even affect the design that much.  You still need a sealed life support system, radiaton shielding, etc.

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Inigo Montoya
September 12, 2016 - 4:34am
Yes, those were the two stood out to me with Rinkers Knot being the better. However I still don't like the idea of a base in a hostile environment being spread out, leaving sections vulnerable to being isolated or cut off during emergencies. I will have to sketch a fresh one. Though my search did turn up an interesting publication from a group of would-be moon colonists from the mid 80's. 

I forgot a medical facility. Familys would have been stationed there which would require a school/daycare facility.

Does anyone know the amount of time that any particular point on the surface of our moon is in darkness? Like our moon, this base will be on a tidally locked moon. It will have a nuclear reactor to power it but it will no longer be functioning. I intend for it to have a solar back-up and I am also curious if greenhouses are feasible.

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jedion357
September 12, 2016 - 6:40am
Try this; an alien ruin on a lunar surface:


http://sapiento.deviantart.com/art/Alien-Ruin-581645060
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TerlObar
September 12, 2016 - 6:56am
On our moon any given point on the surface is dark for just under 15 days and light for the same amount of time.  It depends on orbital period of the moon.  It will spend half that time in light and the other half in dark.
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Inigo Montoya
September 15, 2016 - 6:39pm

Imagine if you would that the UN has funded a large scale lunar base for the purpose of scientific research (facilities) and coordinating resource collections and exploration of our solar system (If we had ships that could travel to the extremities of our system). What would that lunar base be comprised of?

Nuclear reactor

Solar array

Water storage

Water Reclamation

Life support (heating/cooling, air, water, waste removal)

Research labs: biological as well as physics

Observatory on the dark side

Workshop

Mining equipment

Agricultural compound (crops and small livestock)

Medical facility

Family unit housing

Entertainment facilities (movies, lounge, arcade/pool hall, ball field/courts, … )

General store/PX

Command & Control Center

Space ship fuel storage (Hydrogen?)

Oxygen storage

Ore storage (what types?)

What other solid, liquid and gas storage would you suggest? This is to be a civil government run base with a population of a few hundred.

I appreciate any and all comments. 


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rattraveller
September 15, 2016 - 7:41pm
You mentioned spaceship fuel storage but what about other spaceship things like landing pads, maintenacnce areas, warehousing for incoming goods and visiting crew quarters?


Sounds like a great job but where did you say we had to go?

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iggy
September 15, 2016 - 10:18pm
These same maintenance areas for spaceships would also be duplicated for the lunar vehicles and mining equipment.  Lots of wide and tall spaces for indoor cranes to pull large mining trucks apart for repairs.

There would also be possibly rail transportation for the ore transport and to move around the surface to remote bases like the observatory.  This rail system would need a rail yard and maintenance sheds and garages.

Concderning ore storage, I am assuming that is for processed ore.  Most modern mines process the ore as close as possible to the mine so that they do not waste fuel transporting useless dirt for a few percent of ore in it.  I live near the Kenecot copper mine and the length of the mountain is one long processing facility of conveyor belts, processing buildings along the way, and rail lines to move waste back to the tailings.  Only at the end is the big furnaces and such to make bars of metal for storage and transport when purchased.  They extract every valuable too, not just metal.  If there is a chemical bound up in the ore with the metals that they can get at a cost effective way they do it in the many mile long series of processing shops along the length of the mountain from the open pit mine.
-iggy

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Rum Rogue
September 18, 2016 - 3:50pm
Check out Camp Century.  It was an U.S. Army base built under the snow in Greenland.
Some of the basic layouts you are looking for are in there. Maybe you can adapt some it to your needs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ujx_pND9wg

They didn't grow food, but it had a nuclear reactor for power.
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rattraveller
September 18, 2016 - 7:11pm
OK loved the video although seriously doubting the TOP SECRET part of it considering the Hollywood drama, the uniform mistakes and the product placement.

Dug a little further and found this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Iceworm 

Even the name should give you some ideas for SF
Sounds like a great job but where did you say we had to go?

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September 19, 2016 - 8:40pm
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Inigo Montoya
September 20, 2016 - 7:06pm
Thanks Rum Rogue. I recall reading about Camp Century but I had not seen the diagram. That is indeed more along the lines that I had in mind. I appreciate everyones help.