 December 22, 2013 - 9:21pm | Inspired by: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/10530074/Historic-wreckage-of-German-First-World-War-U-boat-revealed-in-low-tide.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/world-war-one/10531084/Secrets-of-Kents-WW1-German-u-boat.html Thank you Andy for posting this at SF_UN yahoo group Archeaologist and experts from the University of Zebulon, Triad Institute of Technology, and the University of Port Loren have certified the discovery of the wreck of a First Common Muster ship at Lossend, Timeon. The Star Ship _________________ was forced to attempt a water landing on Lossend after suffering significant damage in the climatic battle with the pirate Hatzk Naar. Originally thought to have sunk beneath the waves of Lossend's oceans the wreck was discovered in mud flats in the isolated outback of Lossend. Some remains of crew have been recovered but genetic testing is required for final identification.   I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
 December 22, 2013 - 10:03pm | Sweet! I'm tempted to use these pictures as is. If so the ship was a lower hull size ship that had maybe 50 crew tops. There could even be signs that a couple of crew survived but later died of their injuries. I'm inspired with a little Jules Verne -esk style to the survivors ordeal where they recorded their last days and some great discovery they made and left clues to but the archeologists are stumped. -iggy |
December 23, 2013 - 5:03am | That was Andy's idea to use the picture pretty much as is for a player hand out. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
 December 23, 2013 - 7:51am | My first question would be how did the citizens of Lossend miss this the entire time..? |
December 23, 2013 - 8:27am | My first question would be how did the citizens of Lossend miss this the entire time..?
Light population and its in an isolated location. I would go with it being hidden at high tide but IIRC Lossend doesnt have a moon. Another possibility would be that of a roman galley that was discovered when a lake was drained. Suppose the Lossend Development Corporation discovered it after draining a lake or they discovered it then drained the lake. It may only have been found after the space station was completed and orbital mapping revealed it. If fact I think the AD book said something about many opportunities for exploration on settled planets due to short settlement times and the largeness of a world. It could simply be a fluke of the crash being in the right place with little to no satellite coverage. One possible adventure hook could be the PCs ship happen to come in on an odd course that gave them a good look down view of the wreck so that during their layover they can opt to investigate. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
December 23, 2013 - 8:34am | My knee jerk reaction for writing this up would be that on this ship was a pirate mole who radioed the common muster's position to Hatzk Naar so that he could bypass them at Cassidine as Zebs suggests. A few of the crew survive the crash and one left a journal where he suspects the mole. On investigating the crash site its determined that the owner of the journal was murdered. No one is reported to have survived the crash but the mole/murdered did and eventually returned to civilization. Investigation should eventually lead to him. Perhaps the descendant of the murdered journal keeper wants to clear the family name because the leak of the musters location was blamed on him. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
 December 23, 2013 - 8:51am | Surely the unused fuel and drives might show up long before the wreck, assuming atomics are involved...? |
December 23, 2013 - 10:00am | Lossend started out as a light populatio ag colony I rather doubt that. Its unlikely theyed have a satelite network in place and the wreck site would drop "off the radar" as it were and quickly be forgotten in the aftermath of SW1 and the Blue plague. Even with frequent merchant ships in orbit its not likely to be discovered. Space Fleet has a major presence in Prengular (fleet base) and in White Light (space fortress) so Timeon will seem like a sleepy back water with little need for an assigned patrol. Once Tachton becomes a megacorp and largely underwrites the armed station in orbit then you'll start to accumulate hard data on the planet. Timeon's militia which is not void jump capable will only really begin to operate in space once the station is built. Investigation of the wreck could be part of a militia campaign where you were running a non Royal Marines militia campaign. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
December 23, 2013 - 11:32am | Hmm - I still think the fuel would've had some effect on the environment... |
December 23, 2013 - 12:16pm | Hmm - I still think the fuel would've had some effect on the environment...
Sure, and lets say its atomic. The engine housing has to degrade to the point that its exposed and then it begins to pollute the environment but for how far? The air force lost a nuke into the the mud of a Georgia water way in the 50s and has yet to find it. You'd think they would have located it but it remains lost. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
December 23, 2013 - 4:25pm | How big a nuke in comparison to a cargo of fuel pellets? |
 December 23, 2013 - 5:15pm | From my useless facts department. Three airplanes disappear every year whose flight paths never leave the continental United States. While some are probably smugglers or insurance fraud alot aren't. Of course in places like Alaska and Siberia where snowfall is more frequent things are lost more easily lost. Possibly the mud flats were flooded in previous years and are now experiencing a periodic dry spell so the wreckage is revealed. A couple of the wrecks at our Civil War Naval museum were found this way when the rivers dried up some. Sounds like a great job but where did you say we had to go? |
December 23, 2013 - 8:23pm | How big a nuke in comparison to a cargo of fuel pellets? I watched a documentary on the search for the one in a US waterway, turns out it was in the Carolinas not Georgia. Hear's a list of nukes lost by the US military, there is a lot of controversy surrounding the loss of the USS Scorpian with some alledging that the Soviets sunk it and some actions of agents of the US government being tailor made to set off the conspiracy theorist. The point is that nuclear material has and can be lost on earth where the satellite network is thick enough that you'd think that it'd be discovered fairly fast and yet it wasn't. In the Frontier on a new colony that will not have the infrastructure in place that the earth has its entirely believable that the nuclear armed torpedo weapons of KHs ships as well as the feul pellets of atomic drives would escape detection as well. A planet is a big place and it would be easy for things to go unnoticed. http://mentalfloss.com/article/17483/8-nuclear-weapons-us-has-lost It took some more digging my memory about Georgia was correct: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=18587608 Also on this 2nd link if you scroll down to the section headed "A Lost Nuke's Paper Trail" the links there are for PDF copies of declassified government documents on lost nukes and they are interesting reading. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
December 23, 2013 - 9:00pm | Seasonal flooding in a river delta plane would be a great way to cover up the ship and then uncover it later. A little debris here and the are dams up and silt covers the wreck. Then the debris moves and/or some other debirs dams another area and the flodding pattern changes just enough for the river to wash the sediment away exposing the wreck again years later. Just pick a location that is not a good ore deposit and now not only are the farmers uninterested but the miners are not looking either. The farmers arn't interested in the land because the cost to develop flood control in too high given that there is still plenty of good easy land elsewhere. The miners are not interested in mining because there is no good scans indicating plentiful ore. And even after a big metal ship starts showing up in the scans it is still such a small quantity that operating in the mud and water is not worth the effort. About the only ones that would be interested in the area would be Jurak Hangna placating Dwain's desire to capture a Losso-Croc. -iggy |
 December 25, 2013 - 1:51pm | my next story for the FY208 series involves finding a ship from the second general muster a drift in the Xagyg dust nebula. The story should be ready soon for the frontier explorer but its interesting that this thread turns up the same time I am working on a project that has connections to the second general muster and Sathar War One. I think the pics are really cool and certainly would be great for a story of a missing vessel from the first muster. |
