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Corvus
August 26, 2007 - 9:05pm
I don't know how much use the chat app linked to by the main SFman site sees, but there's never anyone in there when I am.  Maybe we should have a link to it from this site?  I know I would love to be able to talk with you folks live and meet and talk to other SF people.  (I don't know if this is an "Issue", so I put this here instead of in Support.)
If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. -- Carl Sagan
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CleanCutRogue
August 27, 2007 - 8:26am
We think alike...

I worked really hard trying to integrate a chat applet into this php-driven site.  Others have built chat programs for Drupal to serve this very need.  But I find them all terribly buggy and less than adequate.  It MUST be possible to get one working properly, but for the moment I'm having difficulty integrating the ones I found.  I really want there to be some sort of chat client here.  It shouldn't be so difficult to use something.

The one over at my starfrontiersman site doesn't get too much use, honestly.  I was going to drop the idea of chat on that site altogether.  The java-based chat client I use on that site is pretty user friendly, though, and simple too.  Perhaps I could move it over to this site?  It shouldn't be that hard to do.  But if I integrate a third-party non-drupal chat program like that, then it would mean having two different username/passwords to manage. 
3. We wear sungoggles during the day. Not because the sun affects our vision, but when you're cool like us the sun shines all the time.

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Corvus
August 27, 2007 - 3:44pm
However you do it is fine with me.  Of course, I personally would prefer to just mainain an IRC channel.  IRC clients are easy to find and download, you can do more with them than you can with the java, and not everybody has a JRE installed in the first place.  But that's just me.  I'll support whatever decision you make.
If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. -- Carl Sagan

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CleanCutRogue
August 27, 2007 - 5:23pm
Corvus wrote:
However you do it is fine with me. Of course, I personally would prefer to just mainain an IRC channel. IRC clients are easy to find and download, you can do more with them than you can with the java, and not everybody has a JRE installed in the first place. But that's just me. I'll support whatever decision you make.
Do you have an IRC client you recommend that's easy to integrate to html?
3. We wear sungoggles during the day. Not because the sun affects our vision, but when you're cool like us the sun shines all the time.

-top 11 reasons to be a Yazirian, ShadowShack


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Corvus
August 27, 2007 - 6:54pm
CleanCutRogue wrote:
Do you have an IRC client you recommend that's easy to integrate to html?


Can't say that I know anything about that at all, I'm afraid.  IRC is probably my most-used app; I have a window open at all times for the channel I maintain, so to me, having a client that's separate from my browser is "how it's supposed to be".
If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. -- Carl Sagan

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Corjay (not verified)
August 27, 2007 - 7:18pm
CleanCutRogue wrote:
Corvus wrote:
However you do it is fine with me. Of course, I personally would prefer to just mainain an IRC channel. IRC clients are easy to find and download, you can do more with them than you can with the java, and not everybody has a JRE installed in the first place. But that's just me. I'll support whatever decision you make.
Do you have an IRC client you recommend that's easy to integrate to html?
Go to the IRC website. I believe they handle that sort of thing there. Because they have access pages to IRC channels, so they should be able to set you up with code to set it up easily, or you could even rip it from their IRC access page.

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Corvus
August 28, 2007 - 12:38am
Corjay wrote:
Go to the IRC website. I believe they handle that sort of thing there. Because they have access pages to IRC channels, so they should be able to set you up with code to set it up easily, or you could even rip it from their IRC access page.


For an example of what he's talking about, this is the "ChatNow" page for the Sorcery.net network:

http://www.sorcery.net/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=416
If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. -- Carl Sagan

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CleanCutRogue
August 30, 2007 - 7:52am
For now I'm using a simple javascript chat.  It'll open up in a popup window so it's separate from the site (so you can keep browsing or working or whatever).  Just click "CHAT" in the main navigational tabs in the top of the site (under the chin of the hot redhead hehe).  Since it uses client-side full java, it'll take some time to open the first time you click it.  But then your java engine should be loaded and opening it and closing it becomes possible with relative ease.  You can also open multiple instances, signing on as different usernames... kinda annoying but whatever.  Something for the split-personality types to enjoy.

Anyway - there it is.  Since it's not open source, I can't add features or edit it.  It is what it is.  If we want to game via chat at a later date, we'll have to come up with something we edit.
3. We wear sungoggles during the day. Not because the sun affects our vision, but when you're cool like us the sun shines all the time.

-top 11 reasons to be a Yazirian, ShadowShack


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Corjay (not verified)
August 30, 2007 - 11:28am
The point to having an IRC channel is to have visual and ready access on the IRC chat list. Currently, the java chat is only accessible from this site. An IRC channel would be accessible on IRC, IRQ, and I think AOL lists. That's huge advertising, seen by millions.

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CleanCutRogue
August 30, 2007 - 12:31pm
I suppose.  But I'm not quite ready to start working on the IRC option yet.  It'll take me some time I'm not willing to spend right this moment.  I will get it working, this I'm sure of.  But for now the only thing I'm going to provide is this simple java chat applet.

Doing it via IRC is a good idea though, reserved for a later date.  I want to have it properly embedded in the site, complete with the ability to facilitate gaming (character sheets that update to reflect damage and ammo and energy uses, making a STR check with a simple command, etc.) and this may require a custom chat program.  I've attacked a lot of knowledge head-on while developing this site.  I was only able to do some very basic html when I started this project, and I'm sure I'll attack the chat thing with equal fervor. 

The chat applet is good in its own right, even if it's local to this site.  I don't feel as if I'm sacrificing anything by using it.  It's a temporary solution.  I plan on making it possible to do online gaming on this site, but want to do it right.  For now, a simple chat applet will do.
3. We wear sungoggles during the day. Not because the sun affects our vision, but when you're cool like us the sun shines all the time.

-top 11 reasons to be a Yazirian, ShadowShack


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Corjay (not verified)
August 30, 2007 - 12:50pm
I would recommend keeping the roleplaying on a local applet (not IRC), but making the community chat IRC. I'm sure it would also be easier that way programming-wise as well.

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CleanCutRogue
August 30, 2007 - 1:18pm
Corjay wrote:
I would recommend keeping the roleplaying on a local applet (not IRC), but making the community chat IRC. I'm sure it would also be easier that way programming-wise as well.
Agreed
3. We wear sungoggles during the day. Not because the sun affects our vision, but when you're cool like us the sun shines all the time.

-top 11 reasons to be a Yazirian, ShadowShack


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Corvus
August 30, 2007 - 8:29pm
Depending on how you want to do it, I can easily register and maintain a community IRC channel.
If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. -- Carl Sagan

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w00t (not verified)
September 7, 2007 - 5:03pm
Corvus wrote:
Depending on how you want to do it, I can easily register and maintain a community IRC channel.


I would prefer IRC as well.
FF has and addon for IRC, or you can get a client or we can have Bill put a java client in this site to access the IRC channel.

IRC, I have more friends now.
Frown

-simply the w00t

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Mycanid
November 14, 2007 - 7:29pm
Seems the chat room works quite nicely ... I just used it this eveing.
@}-,-`- "It is a joyful thing indeed to hold intimate converse with a man after one’s own heart, chatting without reserve about things of interest or the fleeting topics of the world; but such, alas, are few and far between."

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w00t (not verified)
November 14, 2007 - 9:17pm
Mycanid wrote:
Seems the chat room works quite nicely ... I just used it this eveing.

stop replying to old posts. Tongue out

hehe. (joking)

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Corjay (not verified)
November 15, 2007 - 12:56am
After considering the robust abilities of IRC chat, I should revise my earlier statement. We can use the same chat channel for all rooms, keeping all gaming rooms as invite only, while leaving the main room open to all (and of course visible to all IRC users). :)

If you can set it up in a drupal page that allows you to create new game rooms inside the Star Frontiers chat channel the way you create a project on this site, that would be awesome.

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TerlObar
January 29, 2008 - 5:36pm
Strange thing happened on my first attempt at chat.  I was in the room and posted a comment and then when I went to post another one it just stopped responding.  I then closed the window (didn't click on the exit icon, which was probably a bad idea).  When I tried to reopen it, it told me the username was already in use and wouldn't let me back in.  Any ideas what is going on?
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Corjay (not verified)
January 29, 2008 - 8:25pm
You have to close and open a second time and then you can get back in.

It times out after 10 minutes of inactivity.

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w00t (not verified)
January 30, 2008 - 7:28am
you can also re-enter using another name.

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emmie
January 2, 2010 - 4:10am
hi,me emmie here i am student of online degree and now a days i am searching different sites to increase my knowledge as well as  to complete my projects....i hope i'll be welcomed here....:-) found good time here..cheers

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AZ_GAMER
January 3, 2010 - 8:28pm
welcome Emmie, its a really wonderful community here, check out the podcast too.