 March 7, 2012 - 3:25pm | In reading some of the back ground material to look for ideas for space equipment I came across this line from the campaign section of the Knight Hawks remastered: "At the time there was no Spacefleet of any sort. A number of starships had been equipped with weapons to battle pirates and members of the other three races," Before the Sathar War the four races were shooting at each other with starships!?! OK I haven't seen anything in the timeline about this. Someone start explaining. Sounds like a great job but where did you say we had to go? |
 March 7, 2012 - 4:12pm | Yep, its in there and we tend to gloss over it. We've talked a little about them not getting along but I've always taken it to me minor disagreements Inner Reach/Outer Reach style more than all out inter species war. Ad Astra Per Ardua! My blog - Expanding Frontier Webmaster - The Star Frontiers Network & this site Founding Editor - The Frontier Explorer Magazine Managing Editor - The Star Frontiersman Magazine |
 March 7, 2012 - 4:35pm | Just because you own a gun it does not automatically mean you'll pull the trigger in anger. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
 March 7, 2012 - 5:02pm | Most likely there were always some trade, commerce, and border disputes going on even amongst the core four. Some got to close someone elses goodies, space station, planet, what have ya, without the right clearance and someone got their nose in a jam. Doesn't sound that unusal actually even among folks who get along. Its also likely that a mega corp / pan gal ship probably wondered into someones space looking for something profitable and got shot at or shot up. |
March 7, 2012 - 5:58pm | Despite whatever your view is there is certainly room for faction details for each of the core four. Ie. Yazirian fighters look and perform a certain way while vrusk eschew fighters for heavy fighter gun ships. Vrusk are a bit conservative preefering these heavy HS2 craft that have better crew survivability and thus a better chance for the expensive craft to come home (frugal corporate think) while the yazirians prefer lighter craft and a very aggressive doctrine. Dralasite on Terledrom participate in vrusk military and follow their doctrine but those on Inner Reach have opted for a slightly different doctrine tailored toward dealing with pirates. Perhaps humanity has gone on for heavier ships, cruisers. I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
 March 7, 2012 - 6:29pm | Well of course.  I'm just wrapping up my first "early frontier" adventure (thanks TomV) and I'm struggling a bit with inter-racial reactions. I want tension, but not outright hostilities. |
 March 7, 2012 - 8:56pm | Don't forget that humans are good at shooting at each other. We've established that yazirians do it too. The vrusk have old hive grudges that would have carried over to the corporation era. And my beloved dralasites are not perfect. They can debate and rationalize killing each other when the temptations of the universe get the best of them. So we don't need inter racial conflict to drive arming star ships. Inter racial shooting is just a bonus to the weapons manufacturers. -iggy |
 March 14, 2012 - 11:31am |
OK I haven't seen anything in the timeline about this. Someone start explaining.
The explanation is easy: the Zeb's timeline pretty much disregards everything from AD & KH  |
March 14, 2012 - 12:15pm | Checking things again I found that Admiral Morgaine had a cruiser as a Flagship. Now while that is not the biggest ship it is still a pretty impressive piece of military hardware. Also the early battles in the KH book show some interesting ships so just how bad were the relationships between the races? Sounds like a great job but where did you say we had to go? |
March 15, 2012 - 12:15am | KH mentions heavy cruisers are the remnants of the first sathar war "battle ships" or something to that effect. In my game, I have a star fighter corps training area that entails an "obstacle course" in space...trainees must navigate the course and engage in simulated combat with hulks positioned across the field. These hulks are all relics of long ago, sort of a drifting starship museum if you will. Anyways one of them is a HS:19 "Planetary Blaster" from the yazirian sector, boasting what was once a short ranged but extremely deadly beam weapon capable of razing cities and a pair of "laser cannon batteries" that housed actual laser cannons. The weapon systems themselves no longer exist, but it's a testamony to the uneasy relations from before the first war. |
March 15, 2012 - 6:37am | Do we have a time line of the 1st Sathar war anywhere? Seems to me this war could not have last more than a few months at most? Sounds like a great job but where did you say we had to go? |
March 15, 2012 - 7:16am | Yes, I made one up. In the timeline it lasted about 6 months. You can find it in the Port Loren Library project here: Refer to: Timeline for the First Sathar War Ad Astra Per Ardua! My blog - Expanding Frontier Webmaster - The Star Frontiers Network & this site Founding Editor - The Frontier Explorer Magazine Managing Editor - The Star Frontiersman Magazine |
March 15, 2012 - 7:19am | Do we have a time line of the 1st Sathar war anywhere? Seems to me this war could not have last more than a few months at most?
I agree, been waiting for the next iteration of jedion's timeline |
March 15, 2012 - 7:53am | Do we have a time line of the 1st Sathar war anywhere? Seems to me this war could not have last more than a few months at most?
I agree, been waiting for the next iteration of jedion's timelineI might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers! |
