Buying this thing...

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Imperial Lord
March 11, 2009 - 10:16am
So, here's some questions...

After all, we have to discuss this every 6 months or so...

With the recession and all, what are the chances of just BUYING Star Frontiers from Wizards of the Coast?

Are they cash-starved yet?  How much do you think they would want for it?

I know we've gone over this a zillion times already, but hey, maybe the situation has changed?

If they only knew what they had...  Fools.  Such fools.
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March 11, 2009 - 12:27pm
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jedion357
March 12, 2009 - 5:23am
I cant imagine it being chump change. We need something like a prof. sports player who loves the game and wants to save it like what happened with Advanced Squad Leader.


I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers!

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TerlObar
March 12, 2009 - 7:45am
I actualy wrote a letter the WotC CEO about a month ago trying to start a discussion on this very topic.  I'd have written the Licensing Manager but my previous attempts to contact that title have been unsuccessful and I figured I'd got straight to the top.  I asked him about either buying the game rights (reserving WotC free use of the SF aliens in their existing products they are already included in) or licensing the rights so that I could produce SF materials.  I haven't heard back.  WotC seems to be a black hole.  Everything I've sent to them has gotten no response.  I'm tempted to take a few days and go up there and visit in person.
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jedion357
March 12, 2009 - 7:52am
Its a lot harder to blow someone off face to face. Its always easier to say no over the phone too.
I might not be a dralasite, vrusk or yazirian but I do play one in Star Frontiers!

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aramis
March 12, 2009 - 12:48pm
I can't see them being willing to sell; I can see them killing the extant free license after a credible purchase offer, and then mangling it beyond recognition.

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Will
March 12, 2009 - 4:23pm
I agree with aramis on this.

Might have better results going straight to Hasbro, maybe?

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TerlObar
March 12, 2009 - 6:38pm
Of course showing up on their door step may not help either if you can't get passed the receptionist and/or security guard Smile.  The truth is, I'm just trying to start a conversation.  Even a "No" would have been useful but so far I haven't heard a peep.  They did sign for my letter though so I know they got it.

If I can't talk to anyone at WotC, going straight to Hasbro is probably the next step. Although at that point you are so far removed for the relevant business unit that it may not do any good either.

Honestly I don't see them being willing to sell either, but it never hurts to ask.  I'd settle for a licensing deal where I do the work and they get a (preferably small) cut of the profits (if any) for use of their IP.

And as far as I know, there is no extant free license for them to kill.  If someone knows of one and can point me to a copy I'd love to see it.  Tim and Bill can post the rules (original and remastered respectively) through special dispensation and only because WotC hasn't told them to stop.  Actually, I'm not completely clear on exactly the permission that Bill got but Tim was granted permission by TSR and then by WotC to post the original rules for free download until such time as WotC asked him to stop.  So far, they've never asked and it's been ~7 years.
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Imperial Lord
March 14, 2009 - 1:12pm
Good ideas Terlo...

I am inclined to agree with aramis as well on this one as well.

When you think about it, Hasbro might actually benefit from the recession, as people are looking for mega cheap entertainment.  Over time, nothing is cheaper than a board game.  Based on an hourly rate (hours paid vs. price paid), I would say that Star Frontiers has cost me a net of 11 cents!

Nevertheless I am curious as to what they would say.

It is fun to think about - I'm sure within 12 months of a deal we would fill a whole store shelf with new modules!  I for one would start writing immediately. 

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Gergmaster
March 14, 2009 - 6:30pm
I have tried getting a license to the rights for SF as well. Took something like nine months to get a response and it was shot down without even looking at my request. Just said sorry we cannot help you at this time....
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aramis
March 19, 2009 - 3:57am
The extant license is to host the rules for download; they have explicit permission to do so, and that materially constitutes a license.