Status: Unresolved

    Link on 'What's New' page should take you to the new content

    Issue Number:
    190
    Severity:
    Minor
    Description:
    When you click on a link on the 'What's New' page it should take you directly to the new content.  The only real place I see this as an issue is when you are linking to a forum that has more than 30 responses.  Right now, it takes you to the first page of the responses when it should take you to the first new response.  If you are in the main forum pages and click on the 'new' label under the number of responses to that particluar thread, it does take you right to the first new response.  It would be nice if the links on the 'What's New' page behaved the same way.
    Comments:

    Full Bleed's picture
    Full Bleed
    March 16, 2008 - 11:11pm
    I lobbied for this a couple times in the past.. but the idea, as intuitive as it seems, didn't seem to gain any traction.

    Hopefully, you'll be more successful.  ;)


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    Corjay (not verified)
    March 17, 2008 - 1:48am
    It got done to an extent. In fact, it got successfully implimented in Firefox and IE. But there were problems with certain browsers or operating systems that Bill couldn't overcome, and after he got a new job and had to move his family to another state, there's nothing he could do but put this issue on the back burner. People need to remember that Bill is not a corporation. He's one man with a life. He'll get to it when he gets to it, or when he can find someone to do it for him.

    TerlObar's picture
    TerlObar
    March 17, 2008 - 8:21am
    Well it doesn't work on Firefox on Linux which I what I use.  I know Bill is busy which is why I labeled it 'Minor' and the text says "it would be nice".  I agree, it's really just a minor irritation and therefore should only have a low prirority.
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    Corjay (not verified)
    March 17, 2008 - 8:30am
    No. He disabled it when it wouldn't work on all platforms. It apparently caused bugs on the platform it didn't work on.

    Full Bleed's picture
    Full Bleed
    March 18, 2008 - 11:34pm
    Corjay wrote:
    No. He disabled it when it wouldn't work on all platforms. It apparently caused bugs on the platform it didn't work on.


    So, the "new" links through the forums themselves don't work on some platforms?

    All that would need to be done to use the same mechanic is to append "#new" to the "What's New" links.

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    Full Bleed
    March 18, 2008 - 11:40pm
    Corjay wrote:
    People need to remember that Bill is not a corporation. He's one man with a life. He'll get to it when he gets to it, or when he can find someone to do it for him.


    And people need to remember that a community relies on the constructive criticism of its contributors to evolve in a positive direction.  When people can't make decent suggestions for fear of being reprimanded and reminded about how limited Bill's time is, then the feedback section may as well be taken down.



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    Corjay (not verified)
    March 19, 2008 - 6:51am
    I didn't mean it like that. I was just saying that a lot of people lately are requesting a lot of Bill, and patience is the word of the day. I didn't mean they should stop their suggestions, but that they should wait on Bill without pressure.

    Full Bleed wrote:
    Corjay wrote:
    No. He disabled it when it wouldn't work on all platforms. It apparently caused bugs on the platform it didn't work on.

    So, the "new" links through the forums themselves don't work on some platforms?

    All that would need to be done to use the same mechanic is to append "#new" to the "What's New" links.
    That's what he did, but it takes more than just that. I'll let Bill respond on the details.

    CleanCutRogue's picture
    CleanCutRogue
    March 19, 2008 - 9:29pm
    Corjay's mixing two issues.  The problem was when I tried to dynamically cause the "What's New" indicator in the tab at the top of the site to change color depending on whether or not you currently have any material in your "what's new" page.  It was a good idea but sadly was hard to implement because it required an inordinate amount of server-side querying to occur on each and every page load, and some browsers timed out.

    The thing you're asking for, TerlObar, isn't that difficult to do.  You're right, it's basically just appending a "#new" to the links.  I can do this pretty quickly as a test, and we can see if it works in all cases.
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    CleanCutRogue's picture
    CleanCutRogue
    March 20, 2008 - 12:27am
    Ammendment to previous post: it's not as simple as you'd think - there is one trick that I have to work out.  Because of the order of pagination in Drupal core (which I've already hacked too much for most avid Drupal folks) it's not possible to append "#new" in all cases.  If the new content isn't on the first page of comments, it won't resolve properly.  Since individual users can select the number of comments per "page" it's not a simple matter to direct you to the right page easily.  I'll work it out though.  I did it once for the Forums, I should be able to figure it out again for the What's New page.
    3. We wear sungoggles during the day. Not because the sun affects our vision, but when you're cool like us the sun shines all the time.

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    TerlObar's picture
    TerlObar
    March 20, 2008 - 9:28am
    Like I said, it's a minor annoyance so don't waste too much time on it.  As you said, it should be similar if not identical to the code for the 'new' link in the forurms.  Since it existed there, I figured it shouldn't be too hard to replicate the exact same functionality on a different page.
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    TerlObar
    March 20, 2008 - 9:35am
    BTW, it looks like you already added it and it seems to be working.  I was just clicking through all the new items on my 'What's New' page and was ending up at the new posts, even when they were on the second page of posts instead of at the top of the thread.    Thanks.
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    Anonymous's picture
    Corjay (not verified)
    March 20, 2008 - 9:36am
    EDIT

    Anonymous's picture
    Corjay (not verified)
    March 20, 2008 - 2:15pm
    CleanCutRogue wrote:
    Corjay's mixing two issues. The problem was when I tried to dynamically cause the "What's New" indicator in the tab at the top of the site to change color depending on whether or not you currently have any material in your "what's new" page. It was a good idea but sadly was hard to implement because it required an inordinate amount of server-side querying to occur on each and every page load, and some browsers timed out.

    The thing you're asking for, TerlObar, isn't that difficult to do. You're right, it's basically just appending a "#new" to the links. I can do this pretty quickly as a test, and we can see if it works in all cases.
    I was slightly off, but that's not the issue I was confusing. I was confusing the New Post issue of not going to the latest post when posting. You tried it and it worked for me and others, but it caused bugs for some.

    Anonymous's picture
    Corjay (not verified)
    March 20, 2008 - 2:19pm
    By the way, TerlObar, if you haven't already, you should change the dropdown boxes at the top of the comments fields, just below the OP. It gives you the option to choose oldest post first, or newest post first. Set it to "Newest First" and then click the "Save Settings" button to the right. It allow you to view the newest post when you click on a link in the What's New window.

    Full Bleed's picture
    Full Bleed
    March 20, 2008 - 8:52pm
    Looks like it's working now.  :)

    Thanks!






    TerlObar's picture
    TerlObar
    March 20, 2008 - 10:04pm
    Actually, not quite.  At least not for me.  It seems to work most of the time but on a few topics it doesn't seem to go to the right place.  These are usually ones where the new content is on the second page.  Specifically, this time around it didn't work for the Rocket batteries thread, the Why is everyone's aliens... thread and the StarFrontiersman Issue 8 thread.
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    Full Bleed's picture
    Full Bleed
    March 22, 2008 - 9:47pm
    Same here.  Doesn't work on multipage topics (in FireFox.)

    Never noticed that it didn't work from within forums (though I very rarely go into forums)... but it sounds like CCR got it working there... so I suppose it's just a matter of time before it works from the "What's New."